Quote Originally Posted by grantzer View Post
I think Scott,that part of the problem is too many groups,and no focal point for the fans. Add to that a CEO or whatever he calls himself who apparently only ever listens to anyone who agrees with him.

With the current set up,the fans have zero representation, and although the supporters society could demand their two places on the board,Nelms can either outvote them,or just have meetings in their absence. Either way he does what he wants.

As we have seen recently, Nelms is quite happy to respond to questions via a video,where he then answers different questions,and tells us how great things will be, I am not so sure he is so keen on any face to face discussions.

To be fair,with his backer being so far away,Nelms has essentially become de facto owner,and seems to be perfectly happy alienating dundee supporters. As we have seen,even a season ticket holder throwing his book at him was completely ignored.

He is also happy alienating fellow directors it seems,as a few have taken the opportunity to remove themselves from the board,and this,for me,is indicative of how he sees the club running. He knows better than anyone else,so why listen to anyone else.

The supporters society should probably have kept its membership at circa 4,500,and ignored the alleged dogs and budgies within its ranks,with the shares and a claim to that many members,they may have been able to claim to represent the wider fanbase. By introducing an annual membership,they can't really claim that representation with 200 members.

The DSA could withhold whatever monies it hands over,but realistically they would just be cut off the way dfcss were. Same for the foundation.

I fear for the future,unless we can get those three organisations,dfcss,dsa,and the foundation getting together,and sorting out what they want,and singing from the same songbook.

Maybe then, Nelms might just listen, but I am not sure it will ever happen
My wife who is a ‘Football widow’ has said to me “Why is there is not one group representing all the Dundee Supporters”.
She is correct as the number of Dundee supporters attending home games at Dens Park is falling each season no matter what league were are playing in.
Under the entrenched rights the Dee4life Trust are entitled to two representatives on the board of directors of Dundee Football Club Limited.
John Nelms must accept the person nominated by the Dee4life Trust board of directors as their Primary representative.
John Nelms can refuse to accept the first three people nominated by the Dee4life Trust board of directors as their Secondary representative but he must accept the fourth person nominated.
I understand that there are only three Dundee FC board of directors meetings per year and it is unlikely that FPS would be outvoted as including Tim Keyes there are four other directors on the Dundee Football Club Limited board of directors.
Unfortunately it has been posted on the forums that the two founding members of the 1893 Foundation now have nothing to do with it.
There is now a volunteer helping the club running the 1893 Foundation but as usual nobody knows who is this volunteer.
John Nelms stated in his reply to the Open Letter that the DSA are now attending the fortnightly Dundee FC meetings attended by senior management.
If I was a member of Dundee Supporters Club which I am not I would be asking the DSA representative attending the Dundee FC meetings if he has been raising the Dundee Supporters concerns about the way Dundee Football Club was being run at present and the poor lack of communication from the Managing Director.