Quote Originally Posted by Robus View Post
Interesting claim. I wonder if it's true. Forget the distorted "gun deaths" stats that conflate homicide and suicide. Setting suicides apart, you get about 15,000 annual homicides in the US. Let's say 80% were done by firearm: 12,000 / 365 = 33 daily gun homicides.

Aren't they topping that in Ukraine? I just sent them $44 billion.

The former Soviet republics have strict gun laws and homicide rates comparable or higher than the US. Ukraine's pre-war homicide rate was almost identical to that of the US (6.2 v 6.3 per 100,000), despite the fact that Americans have many guns and Ukrainians have few of them.

Then the Russians invaded and the government started handing out automatic weapons to all takers.
You seem to agree it's true you just want to subtract suicides to make it less appalling. The fact we are even discussing the number of gun deaths in the US and Ukraine right now in the same breath is staggering. Don't you agree?
My god accidental gun deaths exceed 2000 per year.