Quote Originally Posted by Woodypie View Post
Defeat against Chesterfield would have left us a mighty mountain to climb for automatic. Yes, this early in the season. Ask Klopp. Defeat on Saturday will be the start of a real **** show. Who knows if it is down to coach or recruitment or owners, we just aren't convincing champions elect, are we?
Early days, but the 8/1 for us to go up as champions doesn't tempt me.

As I've said before, I see Williams being a big hit or a big miss. Rather than repeating a safe playoff place, I think there is more chance of us finishing either top three or 8th to 10th.