Stokie, I have nothing but respect for supporters who have been there through thick and thin. I was a season tix holder with 5 seats for many years.

What I am saying is the United support make it too easy for players and managers to sit in positions and show way too low ambitions (thats almost always been the case).

Any strong team with real ambitions would have punted him after Alkmaar, but too many supporters are way too nice.