Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
The West is and has been kicking the can down the road for years.

The EU was warned by Trump, to not trust Putin and put reliance on him for energy.
He's been playing the west for years, by weakening it with everything from porous borders, to running down self reliance on energy by offering an easy carrott.

Had Corbyn got in, then the Nuclear deterrent would no doubt have been kicked into touch, leaving France representing Europe on the nuclear shield front, with the US.
Oh how weak we have become, listening to all the stories of human kindness for everyone.
Only you could try and make this about borders and Corbyn, and I think you might need to look a little more closely at Trump’s relationship with Putin.

Apart from that...it was a serious question. Winter is coming...sod’s law suggests it’ll be a cold one...but, the question is, while we’ve employed a variety of economic and ‘cultural’ sanctions against Russia have we actually been outwitted and what can we do?