Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
Yes...Wanchope’s debut was truly iconic.
Only claimed Ravanelli to be ‘overated’ not ‘hated’. To me he wasn’t a team player. It was all about him and he continued to cost us a fortune after he’d left.
Best player or GOAT is a bit of a waste of time for the reasons MA has suggested.
You can’t compare a striker with a keeper for instance...on the subject of which...Shilton is an interesting one. Capable of greatness undoubtedly but also flawed imo...personally I preferred Poom (for skill) and Martin Taylor (for attitude) and I very much doubt Shilts would have made it in the more modern game, let alone played for England, given his very limited ability with the ball at his feet.
I think MA said hated... just checked, "least liked". He was just a bit weird for me, but you're right, we suffered from that purchase.
Agree on the GOAT thing, though to keep it interesting, we could consider a GOAT to be a single player who had the most impact on a team. For example, we could say Dave McKay for his impact on the team, despite not being the most exciting or trickiest. It's on that same basis that I don't rate Messi or Ronaldo as GOATs, as they don't have that same impact on the team. Messi in particular, just plays for himself, and Portugal's performances were better without Ronaldo.
I would give Martinez the player of the world cup award, for me he had more impact than any other individual.