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Apologies for the delayed reply, Elite, I'm only here sporadically at present!
The way this bloody site is running, I think that goes for all of us!

Quote Originally Posted by jackal2 View Post
The reason I consider that Britain benefits from Brexit is because I just fundamentally don't accept that we are 'European'.
That's probably where we differ. I like to think I can be British and European at the same time. But where I think we can still retain a national identity, you seem to think (correct me if I'm wrong) that we are being forced into being part of a homogenised Europe. If that was the case, I would be against it. But where do you draw the line? In my vision the French would still be free to cycle in a hooped shirt with a string of onions around their neck, the Germans would still be free to put their towels on sunbeds first, and we would still be free to put on our bells and stockings and go Morris dancing on the village green. We would be different but still friends.

I would add that when I first went abroad I was proud to say I was British. I still am based on the old values, but not on what we have become. I know I did stereotypes before, but if there is a stereotype for distasteful behaviour abroad it belongs to the Brits. This is entirely from personal experience, but the vast majority of times I've seen trouble on holiday, it involves the British.