Political Thread in memory of David Reid. (R.I.P.)

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You mean well off old pensioners who don't need the winter payment thrown under the bus, surely? Always irked me that folk with £40k a year private pension were getting paid. Anyone who can't afford the additional fuel cost can apply to be means tested so in fact nobody who needs it is losing out.

If they are going to fill the £20 billion Tory financial black hole with something, it might as well be that for starters.

I gave my views on the winter fuel payments in Post 229, they're not dissimilar to yours, but it was Labour who introduced these payments in 1997, so they were paying millionaires this money for 13 years up to 2010, since when they have always kicked up **** whenever a Tory government has proposed stopping them. Now they're stopping them within weeks of taking office after promising not to. Hypocrites or just liars ?

As for the fantasy £22 billion black hole in the public finances, 'Reeves cannot claim complete ignorance about the spending pressures and said herself during the campaign that the existence of the independent Office for Budget Responsibility meant it was not necessary to win an election to find out about the state of public finances.' But now she says she didn't know, was she lying then, or is she lying now ? Does it really matter ? Labour, Tories, two cheeks of the same arse.