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1. You'd be correct, and might be, if Red Tories had been given ALL the relevant info by the Blue Tories. They are inferring they weren't. You and I do not know the truth of the matter so can't really comment until we do. Unless we provide caveats of if this otherwise that... ( they have been asked by the Tories, who they blamed. But won't _

2. Maybe semantics but he said he wouldn't raise taxes other than the ones set out in the manifesto. They haven't done that. They have merely stopped paying an allowance. No tax has been increased. He said WON'T BE INCREASED. Lets see next month, do you believe him?

3. I have no idea what new monies he has agreed to pay other countries for "green" issues. Maybe you could enlighten me. Woah, lets get this right. The money was pledged in 2021 at the COP meeting. The point is, if WE AS a nation have a deficit, that money should be going no where. How come, you can clobber pensioners, but send money over seas?

4. Pay rises. One Rail Trade Union accepted a rise. HMG did get involved and the Blue Tories ensured the dispute went on and on and on. That cost the country a lot of money. There comes a time when reaching a compromise actually saves money. The Red Tory HMG solved the dispute to save money. Now, to get away from what happened and to get to my opinion, HMG, whatever the colour should never have been involved in wage negotiations between Rail staff and the PRIVATE company for whom they work. That the dispute was purely down to HMG getting involved is there for all to see. the companies could and would have compromised IF HMG had allowed them to.

NHS Junior Doctors. Following a 7 year degree course they were working for between £14 and £15 an hour SAVING LIVES. The money they were on was a disgrace. Under the Red Tories, a compromise was reached. Thats not true. they are on salary, The £15 an hour is the unions claiming they work a 70 hour week.
1. Your reply doesn't address the point I made and appears to be nonsense. Please what they have been asked by the Blue Tories.

2. You do realise that your word "increase" is a synonym for "raise", don't you?

3. So we blame the new HMG for honouring a pledge made by the old HMG? That's good for persuading other countries that we can be trusted...

4. I suppose you can't blame a man for trying, and you are, very. 70 hours a week is less than most, if not all, JD's work. Until changes a while back they were doing 120 a week. Have you any idea what would happen to the NHS if all JD's stopped for the week once they'd hit the 40 hour mark? You really are straw clutching with this one. Going on an 8 hour day and an average of 21 working days a month, £14 per hour gives you a monthly pre tax salary of £2353. After 7 years of training, that's not very much, IMO, especially considering the work they do. I wonder if anybody else on here thinks JD's are wrong to divide their monthly salary by the number of hours worked to arrive at an hourly rate?