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  1. #21
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    re: New Mega Bucks Owners

    [quote="Rattea" to be brought on board.

    Well throwing money at it always fixes it ...right!!!!

    So then clearly the club havent thrown silly money at it and still building the squad bit by bit has delivered a modicum of success.

    Then you look at the complete debarcle just down the road that seems to be about to implode their whole club!

    As many know I have always maintained throwing money at it is not the way forward and just a knee jerk, short term, panic solution.



    So those screaming for this ... and looking at the evidence now ... would you change your mind on this now?[/quote]

    To be honest, I have to say the present owners have done a blinding job, but where do we go if we gain promotion? Do we do as we did last time and become the laughing stock of the football league, or do the owners now dig a little deepe

  2. #22
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    re: New Mega Bucks Owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Rattea
    So you are saying everyone on here that say the board have done it the right way (and thats nearly all posts) havent even got half a brain then???

    Fester have been throwing money at it for four years now. Longer than we have stabilised the club and started building again.

    And how do you explain the likes of florest and Brighton and Watford and Blackburn ... etc etc etc which have spent large amonths of money????

    maybe if you could aspire to that half a brain you may be able to one day come up with an argument that isnt flimsier than a wet paper tissue


    More COMEDY GOLD from P rat who doesn't even get a simple statement!


    I'm sure ven someone with you can work out whats happened to the teams you mention - the common denominatoris instability, constant chnaging of managers - Though all with the exception of Blackburn have been in the play

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    re: New Mega Bucks Owners

    Except from an article by London Business School business strategy review/

    "Higher wage expenditure by clubs leads to higher league positions. Wage expenditure is measured by the total wage bill of the club, but most of this expenditure is dominated by player wages. These fundamental relationships hold because of the operation of markets: better players win more matches. There is a well-developed market for players that ensures that better-quality players can attract higher wages. As a result, higher wage expenditure improves performance."

    There are plenty of other examples of studies which show the same corelation between finance and success.

  4. #24
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    re: New Mega Bucks Owners

    I think the only way to compare Clough's results with McClarens, exactly as they stand.

    Just did a few quicks sums, now we know that Derby sat 14th after Nigel's run this season, with 12 points and a plus goal diff of 1.

    Now, if the season started for all teams at Steves first game against Leeds, then Derby would currently sit 2nd on goal difference ahead of Burnley.

    14th v 2nd?

    If we had Steve's points per game average for the entire season we still wouldn't be in the top 2 but we would have around 76 points which would mean 3rd or 4th was almost certain, plus we'd only be 4 points behind Burnley.

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    re: New Mega Bucks Owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramondo
    I think the only way to compare Clough's results with McClarens, exactly as they stand.

    Just did a few quicks sums, now we know that Derby sat 14th after Nigel's run this season, with 12 points and a plus goal diff of 1.

    Now, if the season started for all teams at Steves first game against Leeds, then Derby would currently sit 2nd on goal difference ahead of Burnley.

    14th v 2nd?

    If we had Steve's points per game average for the entire season we still wouldn't be in the top 2 but we would have around 76 points which would mean 3rd or 4th was almost certain, plus we'd only be 4 points behind Burnley.
    When you take the fixtures Clough was in charge for and find the corresponding McClaren fixture it's actually remarkably close. McClaren edges it by a point, goal difference is the same, scoring one more under Clough though (obviously conceding one less under McClaren).

    So McClaren is marginally better? Well you could argue that Clo

  6. #26
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    re: New Mega Bucks Owners

    Quote Originally Posted by DCFC95
    I think the only way to compare Clough's results with McClarens, exactly as they stand.

    Just did a few quicks sums, now we know that Derby sat 14th after Nigel's run this season, with 12 points and a plus goal diff of 1.

    Now, if the season started for all teams at Steves first game against Leeds, then Derby would currently sit 2nd on goal difference ahead of Burnley.

    14th v 2nd?

    If we had Steve's points per game average for the entire season we still wouldn't be in the top 2 but we would have around 76 points which would mean 3rd or 4th was almost certain, plus we'd only be 4 points behind Burnley.
    When you take the fixtures Clough was in charge for and find the corresponding McClaren fixture it's actually remarkably close. McClaren edges it by a point, goal difference is the same, scoring one more under Clough though (obviously conceding one less under McClaren).

    So McClaren is marg

  7. #27
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    re: New Mega Bucks Owners

    Not sure at all about the validity of comparisons against 'corresponding' fixtures since presumably you can't replicate whether a fixture is home or away and the fact that teams change over the season.
    Just go for something simple and clear like 'win rate' or league position.If its over a decent length of time its far more valid than 'corresponding fixture' comparisons or, god help us Rattea's 'like for like'( invented by a thick tosser with a grudge).What's happened to the colour charts?
    No contest.

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    re: New Mega Bucks Owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Rapid
    I think the only way to compare Clough's results with McClarens, exactly as they stand.

    Just did a few quicks sums, now we know that Derby sat 14th after Nigel's run this season, with 12 points and a plus goal diff of 1.

    Now, if the season started for all teams at Steves first game against Leeds, then Derby would currently sit 2nd on goal difference ahead of Burnley.

    14th v 2nd?

    If we had Steve's points per game average for the entire season we still wouldn't be in the top 2 but we would have around 76 points which would mean 3rd or 4th was almost certain, plus we'd only be 4 points behind Burnley.
    When you take the fixtures Clough was in charge for and find the corresponding McClaren fixture it's actually remarkably close. McClaren edges it by a point, goal difference is the same, scoring one more under Clough though (obviously conceding one

  9. #29
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    re: New Mega Bucks Owners

    Quote Originally Posted by triz
    I think the only way to compare Clough's results with McClarens, exactly as they stand.

    Just did a few quicks sums, now we know that Derby sat 14th after Nigel's run this season, with 12 points and a plus goal diff of 1.

    Now, if the season started for all teams at Steves first game against Leeds, then Derby would currently sit 2nd on goal difference ahead of Burnley.

    14th v 2nd?

    If we had Steve's points per game average for the entire season we still wouldn't be in the top 2 but we would have around 76 points which would mean 3rd or 4th was almost certain, plus we'd only be 4 points behind Burnley.
    When you take the fixtures Clough was in charge for and find the corresponding McClaren fixture it's actually remarkably close. McClaren edges it by a point, goal difference is the same, scoring one more und

  10. #30
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    re: New Mega Bucks Owners

    Off topic really but It is impossible to say FACTUALLY whether If Clough had remained as manager he would have achieved what McClaren has achieved but nobody surely has an issue with what McClaren has achieved?

    P rats arguments on this score are meaningless.

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