Bad for the club? Good for the team?

[Rattea]

Not even I like losing and especially like that to probably the least deserving team ever. Did they actually do anything!

However my view before the game is we are not ready to go up and my view after is we really are not ready if we can't finish a game like that.

Financially as with any club that close is it's bad. Forget the A?120m. When all the additional overheads and costs are taken of that probably equated to A?20m to A?30m. Large but not what people make it out to be and over 5 years. Top end A?6m a year.

Extra revenue from merchandise this and next season, additional gate receipts and money for today will probably top that A?6m if for just one season so looking at the bigger picture maybe we are not that worse off. If and a big if we continue to move forward.

Good for the team tho as I think if we had gone up we would have come back down and had the team broken up and have to buy an build again which is why so few clubs go straight back up these days. I think the core o

[RamBling]

Except the team will be broken up because we wont keep the loanees. How can we replace Thorne and Wisdom (and Bamford)? And that's just to stay where we are?
I think its time for our owners to find some cash and back Steve.

[Fletch_11]

I'm thinking along the same lines to be honest Rat. Although I'm disappointed at not going up I don't think this is anywhere near as bad as it could have been and I'm feeling genuinely positive for the future - I'm proud of every one of them management and players and I think we might just bounce back stronger for a few reasons -

1. Age of team - the core of the team is very young, the defeat was a harsh lesson in the learning curve but next year they will be older and wiser. They have already come a long way an example being how they played the patient football even on the big occasion, that is what Steve has taught them, a bit more ruthlessness fuelled by this defeat might be helpful.

2. Previous comparisons - I saw yesterday much like a reverse of our last playoff final appearance, where West Brom were on top but lost. The following season they went up automatically and haven't looked back. Following Steve's arrival only one team in the top four divisions won more games (Leicester

[AngryRam]

I guess the answers will be in the ownership group.. Potentially we lose Some real quality but IF we lose the likes of Thorne, then they must see that having a make do, won't do..
Players come and go, that's a given but we must replace like for like.

[blackandwhite56]

We must say first that this season has been brilliant with the fans lucky to have such consistently good football to watch. All at the club have done well and the appointment of McClaren has taken the club forwards. We have increased season ticket sales for next season and hopefully increased gates as an immediate reward for what has happened this season.

Some of us, whilst being happy with any success in the horrible play-off lottery, did post reservations about whether we were ready and the Rat is right in this respect, and certainly so in relation to finance.

Whether it's bad for the club depends on what the intentions of the owners are and we don't really know this. We can expect that at the very least they will want to maintain the financial regime they have been operating and we can't blame them if they want to minimise the amount of money they have to keep putting in. But at least the success of this season will have helped the finances.


The team would have been broken up i

[trentside]

I guess the answers will be in the ownership group.. Potentially we lose Some real quality but IF we lose the likes of Thorne, then they must see that having a make do, won't do..
Players come and go, that's a given but we must replace like for like.

All if's and but's... If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle Ha Ha Ha Ha ..
Ain't you forgetten there will be at least 6 to 8 very strong teams in the championship next season , teams just relegated and wolves Wigan reading , the reds... So what makes your lot think because you had a fluke season this year brolly man will do it next year ... Don't think so, your best chance was yesterday and you blew it to 10 men one shot QPR ...Ha Ha Ha Ha

[AngryRam]

I guess the answers will be in the ownership group.. Potentially we lose Some real quality but IF we lose the likes of Thorne, then they must see that having a make do, won't do..
Players come and go, that's a given but we must replace like for like.

All if's and but's... If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle Ha Ha Ha Ha ..
Ain't you forgetten there will be at least 6 to 8 very strong teams in the championship next season , teams just relegated and wolves Wigan reading , the reds... So what makes your lot think because you had a fluke season this year brolly man will do it next year ... Don't think so, your best chance was yesterday and you blew it to 10 men one shot QPR ...Ha Ha Ha Ha[/quote]

You really are inbred ain't you.. Your aunt is probably you sister anyway you moron. Now go away and read your post and come back and tell me how your reply relates to it in anyway..
Je

[Wombourne_Rammie]

Good grief, I actually agree with everything you've said there Ratty; spot on and very good points about the real financial outcomes. I wonder how much net income we drew in from those three play off games.

Also hopefully it's been a character building experience for those young lads.

Feel devastated but also strangely slightly relieved.

[eamonnram]

Well said ratty. I think your bang on. The money thing in the greed league is over exaggerated by a mile. Your wages nearly double for a start and I think we would have lost most of this team as they would not have been good enough for the prem. So lets build on this and smash the scum 5-0 again. Oh hold on they have pearce coming home. Wow

[southernram22]

well trentside if we have no chance next season where does that leave your lot relegated. as you will be under a transfer embargo this year.