The Independence Referendum

[BigIain]

Yesterday David Cameron comes to Scotland to say he loves us.

Today government owned RBS says " no " !

Aberdeen Asset Management are a 100% '" Yes ".

Maybe that's the difference between having assets rather than liabilities.

The BBC are now out of control in their bias towards no.

[eugene_ionesco]

Yesterday was a bad day for the Yes campaign. Another inconclusive poll said nothing very surprising. Some Scottish companies are thinking about moving their registered offices to the Big Smoke. Prescott has offered us a tantalising glimpse of a rosy future in which 10 Englishmen, Gareth Bale and a token, non-playing Scottish sub lose narrowly to Germany on artistic impression. Canadian Mark Carney has informed us that it's his pound and we'll have to seek a currency agreement with Panama for use of the balboa. Our North Sea oil and gas reserves actually ran out last Tuesday, but no-one had the heart to tell us. Putin is just waiting for us to ship Trident back to Blighty before annexing Dumbarton. I wonder what today will bring...

[tube8]

[quote]If Scotland becomes independent, it will be despite the efforts of almost the entire UK establishment. It will be because social media has defeated the corporate media. It will be a victory for citizens over the Westminster machine, for shoes over helicopters. It will show that a sufficiently inspiring idea can cut through bribes and blackmail, through threats and fear-mongering. That hope, marginalised at first, can spread across a nation, defying all attempts to suppress it. That you can be hated by the Daily Mail and still have a chance of winning. - view external link

[rjc_1988]

The last comment which attaches the guardian article probably sums up why so few NO sympathisers show their hand and post on sites like this.

The implication is that the establishment who want to fight for the Union should somehow roll over and let guys like Alex Salmond walk all over them. The yes voters are much more likely to wave the saltire and generally be more vocal. It does not mean that the NOs are any less passionate about their cause.

I would say that David Cameron has been extremely lax in allowing Salmond to dictate all the terms of the vote that suit the yes cause (mainly the 16+ age criteria) which is ludicrous and has not to my knowledge been replicated in many other similar votes of this significance.

[JRSLEFTPEG]

The last few days of the referendum campaign are going to be very difficult from a Yes perspective. The whole of the British State battering them left , right and centre . Don't take my word for it ,just turn on the news or read any paper . This is disappointing from a democratic stance but not surprising at all.

[tube8]

rjc_1988 the comment I quoted in my post was from the article in the link, and I saw it as an interesting perspective on the media attention the referendum has received on the whole, but specifically in the last few days.
I would agree that no voters are equally as passionate and as patriotic yes voters, we just have different visions.

At least I hope that’s the reason our votes differ (different visions); I wouldn’t want anyone to vote out of fear on the back of scare stories from either side.

As for the younger voters I think this is a good thing. The number of them eligible to vote won’t make a big difference to the result but it could get them interested in politics going forward. Going by what I’ve read about the polls in schools they should boost the No support.


Video on the link is Salmond putting the BBC in their place earlier.. - view external link

[GB1]

an internal poll carried out by better together has just found that they have already lost Glasgow, Aberdeen and Dundee, further info, hopefully, will follow

[Katboy31]

Haven't bothered with this thread until now. However, it's an unequivocal NO from me.

Having looked at all the facts, all I can see with a yes vote is bankruptcy. Several banking companies have announced their intention to move out of Scotland in the event of a yes vote. Whatever way you look at it, this will cost jobs. Trident whether we like it or not (I personally don't) provides employment. Do we really want to add to the dole queues?

There has to be change to the political setup, with that much I agree. An independence vote though is taking things too far. Once done we cannot reverse it. As a nation we are on the verge of making a very big mistake!

[tube8]

an internal poll carried out by better together has just found that they have already lost Glasgow, Aberdeen and Dundee, further info, hopefully, will follow

There's only one poll that matters.

[RobQos]

Katboy. The banks haven't said they are leaving. The ones who coming out against have for the last few days been in meetings with David Cameron - according to Robert Peston at the BBC. They are being Lobbied to help the flagging No Campaign. Standard Life for example said exactly the same things before devolution. The Chairman is personal friends with Cameron.

What about all the businesses who are saying that this is a huge opportunity? Or Aberdeen Asset Management Chief who said today that Yes or No Scotland is a rich country and has the ability to thrive.

"An independent Scotland would be a big success, according to the head of the country's largest asset manager.

Martin Gilbert, chief executive of Aberdeen Asset Management, said Scotland could prosper regardless of the outcome of the referendum next week.

Gilbert said the Scottish government's preferred option of a formal currency union between an independent Scotland and the rest of the UK would be "highly likely", despite it