Wayne Rooney?

[MikeSB]

What has he to do with CAFC you may all ask?

Well he is one of the highest paid football players in the world and so where did he learn to play the game and what coaching did the boy have?

OK this is just an extract from his Wiki entry..

"Rooney began playing for Liverpool Schoolboys and scored 72 goals in one season, a record which stood until May 2010.[22] At age nine, Rooney played for Copplehouse boys' club in the local Walton and Kirkdale junior league and scored 99 goals in his final season before being spotted by Everton scout Bob Pendleton"

Now maybe someone can tell us that coaching was responsible here OR was it that natural ability that he had BEFORE the coaches got hold of him?

This is how it was done in the old days folks..

Now try and tell me that was all wrong and academies are the answer?

Every schoolboy wants to become a Pro footballer and academies waste tens of millions on them when they are really born and not made.

They are out there and it doesn'

[AstonAlex]

[quote="MikeSB"]What has he to do with CAFC you may all ask?

Well he is one of the highest paid football players in the world and so where did he learn to play the game and what coaching did the boy have?

OK this is just an extract from his Wiki entry..

"Rooney began playing for Liverpool Schoolboys and scored 72 goals in one season, a record which stood until May 2010.[22] At age nine, Rooney played for Copplehouse boys' club in the local Walton and Kirkdale junior league and scored 99 goals in his final season before being spotted by Everton scout Bob Pendleton"

Now maybe someone can tell us that coaching was responsible here OR was it that natural ability that he had BEFORE the coaches got hold of him?

This is how it was done in the old days folks..

Now try and tell me that was all wrong and academies are the answer?

Every schoolboy wants to become a Pro footballer and academies waste tens of millions on them when they are really born and n

[MikeSB]

No they are NOT coached for goodness sake. They are brilliant BEFORE the coaching staff got hold and why all those players had the natural ability BEFORE. As indeed WR was. But that doesn't fit the lie does it?

Any sport you care to mention is the same. BORN not made.

Who coached WR to score all those goals at schoolboy level?

I KNOW people don't want to read this but its all true.

We are spending ONE MILLION pounds EACH year on kids that most will never play at the standard required and that seems a waste of money when we should be looking elsewhere as well as locally.

[Timmy58]

It is quite ridiculous to imply that the likes of Wayne Rooney weren't coached as schoolboys. What do you think games masters and mistresses do with their charges when they are representing their schools? Coaching is essential in all sport. It improves people at all levels. The higher the natural level, the better they become with coaching. Fact!!

[Alexman]

Oh give it a rest MikeSB. You just like having a different opinion to everyone else and blurting about it. Nobody cares and your opinion isnt going to stop the academy at Crewe so why does it matter?

[somersetcrewe]

Wayne Rooney is an exceptional talent - note the word "exceptional" - his record at every level, (love him or hate him - and I know he divides opinion), proves that!

He is a very rare commodity and therefore a poor example to use!

It is a fact that a lot of naturally young talented kids *don't* make it in the game - but why is that? Check out the long list of England schoolboy internationals. Raw talent is not in itself enough, you have to harness it - and that's what coaching is all about!!

And don't think coaching is just about learning the Cruyff turn, the Ronaldo free-kick or even the Lamela Rabona - it's not! It's about having the discipline to play the game, the awareness to make the right moves, the right decisions at the right time. That comes with experience - and practice!

Football is not just in the feet, it's in the head too - and it's the greatest coaches that can get the extra mile out of the greatest players, (even the average ones).

So, Mike, an interesting argume

[itwasin]

Alexman Thats what a Forum is for Having Different Opinions so get used to it . Who do u think you are!

[AlexLeicester]

I think we can all find one-off examples to make our point. As Somerset says, the word 'exceptional' is important to remember.
What to me is the paramount aspect is that professional coaching and training in anything and everything is *****. The Academy provides that for footballers at a time when government funding is being slashed wholesale to the long term detriment of the country in an ever increasing range of activities.

We must stand back and see the Alex as a prime example of how a lower league club should be run: stability, solvency, future-planning and forward looking, youth-orientated, and with an emphasis on entertainment.

Winning is obviously important, and the lads are encouraged to win, but if the sole reason to attend a football match is to see your team win, then the funny farm is a logical next step.

COYRs

[bigroof]

So Mike, how did Wayne Rooney (and Jimmy Greaves, your big favourite from the past), improve? In a vacuum?

[itwasin]

Who is AL talking about ? Future Planning and Forward Looking VALE or STOKE.?