How Wrong Can You Be?

[chris311080]

I'm not sure a more experienced manager would have done better with the finances available simply because I don't think he would have stuck around for as long as clough did. Most wouldn't have taken the **** job clough did

I think mclaren has been given more money in the sense that an initial lay out of £3m plus for one player is more than we have spent on an individual in 7 years. Would clough have known how to spend it wisely if he had been given it..the signing of Conor sammon from premiership Wigan tells me not.

His talents clearly lay on bringing in players from leagues below and turning them into solid championship players. The likes of brayford, bailey, keogh and Davies prove this

[Rapid]

Did Sam really say that? I follow the feedback on those forums quite closely, and have to admit I missed that comment if the case

Can anyone verify this? Someone on here must have been present

I wasn't present but I can remember there being several very reliable sources at the time quoting that the deal was around the £3m mark (potentially just over) - not just that quote from SR.

[swaledale]

I'm not sure a more experienced manager would have done better with the finances available simply because I don't think he would have stuck around for as long as clough did. Most wouldn't have taken the **** job clough did

I think mclaren has been given more money in the sense that an initial lay out of £3m plus for one player is more than we have spent on an individual in 7 years. Would clough have known how to spend it wisely if he had been given it..the signing of Conor sammon from premiership Wigan tells me not.

His talents clearly lay on bringing in players from leagues below and turning them into solid championship players. The likes of brayford, bailey, keogh and Davies prove this

I don't follow that Clough was the only manager who would take the job! Even complete basket case clubs with dodgy owners and very poor finances destined for relegation get numerous applications, are you really saying that there wasn't a bett

[chili756]

Its not about being wrong or right, its about seeing the whole picture. Like many have already said, along with myself, Clough evened us out. He removed enough rubbish to nearly fill 2 whole squads, he undid the travesty that our academy had become under Jewell, and I think he brought back reserve team/U21s football, though Jewell may have started this. Unfortunately the football wasnt great, and I knwo at the time I did try to defend this, I can see now it wasnt great. However at the time many fan, many of whom were posters on this board were simply not happy with this, and walked away, which is their choice of course.

Football though is like that. For me, we are just coming out of 15 years of pain. The likes of the 3 amigos, nearly going bust, no assets, no decent players, rubbish football and little to no investment. However this has all been washed away. Most important, to me at least is our academy. Not perhaps like Southamptons, but enviable and producing decent players. Our cur

[chris311080]

[quote="chili756"]Its not about being wrong or right, its about seeing the whole picture. Like many have already said, along with myself, Clough evened us out. He removed enough rubbish to nearly fill 2 whole squads, he undid the travesty that our academy had become under Jewell, and I think he brought back reserve team/U21s football, though Jewell may have started this. Unfortunately the football wasnt great, and I knwo at the time I did try to defend this, I can see now it wasnt great. However at the time many fan, many of whom were posters on this board were simply not happy with this, and walked away, which is their choice of course.

Football though is like that. For me, we are just coming out of 15 years of pain. The likes of the 3 amigos, nearly going bust, no assets, no decent players, rubbish football and little to no investment. However this has all been washed away. Most important, to me at least is our academy. Not perhaps like Southamptons, but

[swaledale]

[quote="chris311080"]Its not about being wrong or right, its about seeing the whole picture. Like many have already said, along with myself, Clough evened us out. He removed enough rubbish to nearly fill 2 whole squads, he undid the travesty that our academy had become under Jewell, and I think he brought back reserve team/U21s football, though Jewell may have started this. Unfortunately the football wasnt great, and I knwo at the time I did try to defend this, I can see now it wasnt great. However at the time many fan, many of whom were posters on this board were simply not happy with this, and walked away, which is their choice of course.

Football though is like that. For me, we are just coming out of 15 years of pain. The likes of the 3 amigos, nearly going bust, no assets, no decent players, rubbish football and little to no investment. However this has all been washed away. Most important, to me at least is

[swaledale]

Well FailDale I would say to Chris's response ... Ouuuuuuuuchhhhhhhh!

You've been well and truly owned on that one!

To be fair Clough didn't put nearly all his eggs in one basket such as what has nearly happened with Thorne.

Remeber most of the summer was taken up negotiating ans securing longer most of Cloughs player

Yet again as other postsclearly demosnstrate your a wee bit premature!

Clearly this is a condition which blights your life!

COMEDY GOLD indeed!

[Rattea]

Ahemmmmmm rapid, Swale and co ... Don't choke on it fellas

[swaledale]

Ahemmmmmm rapid, Swale and co ... Don't choke on it fellas

Sorry Prat my intellect isn't high enough to understand the point your post supposed to be making?


However I will struggle and try and interpret what this Forums master football pundit and wise old sage is saying here.

A) Derby are not top of the league anymore and that proves the club haven't improved


Someone (we shall not him for fear of the shame amongst the internet community) who predicted the disaster once Glick and Clough had left Derby only slavaged atiny bit of credibility by their failure in the play off final - is now thinking how clever he is in "predicting" that Derby would not stay top of the league and therefore clearly hadn't improved as he had said all along ad infinitum since McClaren took over.




I'm thinking its B, but then I don't have your amazing powers of deduction, mind you I don't liv