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Thread: All very nice ... But

  1. #21
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    re: All very nice ... But

    OK so yes it's a gamble but surely worth taking. As pointed out this season is the one to go for promotion. Next season the Prem relegated clubs will have that much money every other team in the Championship will be at a huge disadvantage.

    As for FFP just forget it. It has the bite of a 100 year old toothless tortoise. Just play it like Greece refuse to pay what you owe, demand more loans knowing you'll never be able to pay them off and knowing you'll get the loan as the establishment daren't do anything else. If and it's a big if the FFP does begin to bite get wonderful 'Arry' in he'd get us off.

  2. #22

    re: All very nice ... But

    Quote Originally Posted by ramspride
    It has the bite of a 100 year old toothless tortoise.
    Metaphor of the day!

  3. #23
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    re: All very nice ... But

    [quote="dcfcdavecov"]So things have changed this summer when it comes to the austerity of yesterday and the money being quoted for players who have come in. We all know that the pay structure must have been smashed and the sustainability of the club model no longer in place.

    I have already stated that if Mel Morris wants to invest his money he should do so without people ... Fans ... Saying he should do so and not have a say. Of course he should.

    But there are lots of unanswered questions. We have been caught before and so have other clubs. Where is the money coming from exactly? what is the model? And how does this all got in with ffp?

    It doesn't take much to do the maths and see we are already about to strangle ourselves within the bounds of ffp. Is Mel bank rolling this or other investors? Are funds being borrowed against assets such as the ground? Are we creating a wages and outgoing millstone that could s

  4. #24
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    re: All very nice ... But

    Ditto ... you beat me to it Rodger

    FFP is on the season not withstanding efforts like capitalizing debts as it hits the footballing costs directly excluding youth, community etc

    A lot of posts especially a calculated risk tho I would like to share the optimism but the risk of failure is too great and after just one season almost unrecoverable. There must be something going out at the other end the balance it as I am sure the club accountants are switched on enough to bring to peoples attention.

    And I agree MM should be able to spend his money as he wants ... but maybe not if it were to put the clubs future in any form of risk ... I am sure/hopeful he wont.

  5. #25

    re: All very nice ... But

    Quote Originally Posted by Rattea
    Ditto ... you beat me to it Rodger

    FFP is on the season not withstanding efforts like capitalizing debts as it hits the footballing costs directly excluding youth, community etc

    A lot of posts especially a calculated risk tho I would like to share the optimism but the risk of failure is too great and after just one season almost unrecoverable. There must be something going out at the other end the balance it as I am sure the club accountants are switched on enough to bring to peoples attention.

    And I agree MM should be able to spend his money as he wants ... but maybe not if it were to put the clubs future in any form of risk ... I am sure/hopeful he wont.
    The thing with FFP, it's all down to whether or not the legislation can be successfully implemented and the businesses (clubs) can be policed. For this to happen the overseeing body whether it be the FL, FIFA or who ever would have to employ a significant number of qualified

  6. #26
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    re: All very nice ... But

    [quote="Rattea"]So things have changed this summer when it comes to the austerity of yesterday and the money being quoted for players who have come in. We all know that the pay structure must have been smashed and the sustainability of the club model no longer in place.

    I have already stated that if Mel Morris wants to invest his money he should do so without people ... Fans ... Saying he should do so and not have a say. Of course he should.

    But there are lots of unanswered questions. We have been caught before and so have other clubs. Where is the money coming from exactly? what is the model? And how does this all got in with ffp?

    It doesn't take much to do the maths and see we are already about to strangle ourselves within the bounds of ffp. Is Mel bank rolling this or other investors? Are funds being borrowed against assets such as the ground? Are we creating a wages and outgoing millstone that could sink the club later? What assurances do we have in

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