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Thread: The New Manager and FFP

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    The New Manager and FFP

    We are right up on the limit of FFP if not beyond, therefore no manager will be appointed until 1st June at the earliest. What with signing fees, agents fees, lawyers the costs are north of £500k at day 1.

    Here are somes of potential managers not mentioned:

    Steve Evans - available !!
    Darren Clark - 3 promotions in 4 years
    Michael O'Neil - current Northern Ireland manager.
    Paul Simpson - very keen to come back
    Martin O'Neil - potentially going to Forest.

    Who wants a wager on one of the above !!!!

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    re: The New Manager and FFP

    Quote Originally Posted by derbystig
    We are right up on the limit of FFP if not beyond, therefore no manager will be appointed until 1st June at the earliest. What with signing fees, agents fees, lawyers the costs are north of £500k at day 1.

    Here are somes of potential managers not mentioned:

    Steve Evans - available !!
    Darren Clark - 3 promotions in 4 years
    Michael O'Neil - current Northern Ireland manager.
    Paul Simpson - very keen to come back
    Martin O'Neil - potentially going to Forest.

    Who wants a wager on one of the above !!!!
    Such a situation appears possible, but I can't imagine that any of the people who have genuine knowledge of the situation letting anything slip. Morris, Rush and Pearce will know, maybe a couple of others from the accounts department, and possibly some close family members of those already mentioned. Whilst I have no knowledge to the contrary with which to argue against your scenario, I would be very interested to know how

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    re: The New Manager and FFP

    No forecast would have included the costs associated with the process of de-Clementing ourselves. How long was his contract? I dont see any mitigation of his loss in the shape of getting a new job. So I am prepared to believe that we are tight up on it and also that we would want to push any acquisition cost into the next financial year - which implies the target is currently in a position where compensation is needed. This rules out Sherwood Martinez Moyes etc as they are not working so not so much acquisition cost.....

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    Darren Clark might manage the Ryder Cup team but I dont know about football.

    After an exhaustive search of Google I conclude you refer to Darrell Clark, currently at Bristol Rovers. His credentials sound impressive but his promotions were in Conference South, Conference and League 2 so here we have someone who makes Wassall looks experienced at Championship level

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    re: The New Manager and FFP

    Experience in league 2 much dif from Championship? Assemble team, organise team, motivate team. Dif between coming in from L2, as opposed from abroad or only having PL experience, is probably less?

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    re: The New Manager and FFP

    Quote Originally Posted by roger_ramjet
    No forecast would have included the costs associated with the process of de-Clementing ourselves. How long was his contract? I dont see any mitigation of his loss in the shape of getting a new job. So I am prepared to believe that we are tight up on it and also that we would want to push any acquisition cost into the next financial year - which implies the target is currently in a position where compensation is needed. This rules out Sherwood Martinez Moyes etc as they are not working so not so much acquisition cost.....
    No, but the FFP implications should have been considered before he was sacked. If the OP's assertion is correct, then it follows that upon sacking Clement (assuming that it involved significant costs and not a simple gross misconduct termination), that we were heading for an FFP breach, which was only (possibly) alleviated by making the play-offs. That's a huge gamble, and makes it appear that Mel had a very

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    re: The New Manager and FFP

    Quote Originally Posted by derbystig
    We are right up on the limit of FFP if not beyond, therefore no manager will be appointed until 1st June at the earliest. What with signing fees, agents fees, lawyers the costs are north of £500k at day 1.

    Here are somes of potential managers not mentioned:

    Steve Evans - available !!
    Darren Clark - 3 promotions in 4 years
    Michael O'Neil - current Northern Ireland manager.
    Paul Simpson - very keen to come back
    Martin O'Neil - potentially going to Forest.

    Who wants a wager on one of the above !!!!
    No, none of those mentioned, but I personally think they have someone 'big' lined up.

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    re: The New Manager and FFP

    Find it seriously worrying that posters such as Cornwall and Roger are considering that the OP may have a point.
    I, amongst others, have consistently defended MM and how the club has been run over the last few troublesome months. Equally I have always found CornwallRam and RR to be completely reliable where matters of finance are concerned.
    If there is now a question of us having a problem with FFP then it has to come down to mis-management and if that is the case then I, for one, will be colossally disappointed. Hopefully just another scare story.

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    re: The New Manager and FFP

    Stig. You're last post on here was June 2015 that was about Simmo your not his agent are you. Cannot see us wanting any off your list Although Evens contract at Leeds runs out on June 30th As for the financial unless you tell us more I will take it with a pinch of salt mate


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    re: The New Manager and FFP

    I don't mean to suggest that I believe that the OP is correct, or indeed incorrect - I have no way of knowing that, and I'm sceptical that the OP does either.

    We know that we spent a lot of money in the season just gone and will be approaching the limit, and we know that we haven't appointed a manager yet, despite having three months to consider it, and it is indeed getting close to June. That makes it vaguely plausible that FFP could be a significant factor.

    I was just making the point that if (and it's a huge if) we have only been saved from FFP sanctions by making the play-offs, then Mel's actions last season look a little hard to understand. Why spend so excessively if promotion was not the main concern? Why sack Clement when we couldn't afford to replace him and were in fifth place? Mel's explanation of wanting to prioritise the building of a sustainable club and Clement not being with that particular programme doesn't sit easily with Mel then choosing to risk falling foul

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