Quote Originally Posted by champs95 View Post
I was in the IN camp. But felt all in all, they did a terrible job in campaigning, in comparison the scare tactics used by Brexit. That's what shifted the vote. Auks, your points are valid, but you'd have to live in the country to see the way the points where put across to the general, voting public. You would then have to a clear example than what your hear from in media reports, which is ultimately how your viewing this. It's affects you in a different way. Your not seeing what's been coming through people's letter boxes etc etc for the last few months leading up to this decision. And the leader, the voice of the people I listened to, wimped out and walked which says it all really.

But now the decision as been made its time to move on. I am unconvinced enough to see any real major changes once the dust settles. Once the scaremongering dies down, and the knee jerking, things will look different.
That's my opinion right or wrong anyway.
Well, there are the unseens. Take Scotland away - and that looks a certainty - and you may well be left with the fact of a permanent Tory government, based on the way the English constituencies voted at the last election.
What is amazing is the unlikely alliance that won the vote. It appears to be a combination of the gentry/upper middle-classes in the Shires who believe England should still rule the world, and the English working class who blame the current situation on poor people from other countries rather than on a series of right-wing governments whose failed free-market, neo-liberal economic policies brought the world crashing into the worst recession in 90 years in the first place!
Still, those Johnny Foreigners with funny languages won't be bothering us in the future. England can return to its glorious destiny - led, presumably, by Boris Johnson.
Perhaps when I wake up, Johnson and Trump will turn out to have been creatures of nightmare only.