I voted yes....but felt like I'd been kicked in the ba's the day

[JackSnakes]

I think you'll find economics are a fairly sizable issue with regards Scottish Independence.

To who?
It shouldn't be.
It wasn't for Brexit because, despite knowing full well that they were shooting themselves in the pocket, they voted for it anyway because they wanted their country back.
Like indyref, Brexit was not really about the economy or immigration - these are just issues used to muddy the waters. Scare stories to make people think twice about their original position.
To be honest, if you don't want it badly enough to go for it despite the sure knowledge that you will be hit hard in the short term, then you really shouldn't even bother thinking about it.
Independence is a bold step for a country that has not had it for 300 years.
It is obviously too bold a step for many.

[Mook1]

To who?
It shouldn't be.
It wasn't for Brexit because, despite knowing full well that they were shooting themselves in the pocket, they voted for it anyway because they wanted their country back.
Like indyref, Brexit was not really about the economy or immigration - these are just issues used to muddy the waters. Scare stories to make people think twice about their original position.
To be honest, if you don't want it badly enough to go for it despite the sure knowledge that you will be hit hard in the short term, then you really shouldn't even bother thinking about it.
Independence is a bold step for a country that has not had it for 300 years.
It is obviously too bold a step for many.

To people who live & work in Scotland.

[JackSnakes]

To people who live & work in Scotland.

Your wee one liners aren't contributing anything here by the way.
Say something sensible or fk off.

[Mook1]

Your wee one liners aren't contributing anything here by the way.
Say something sensible or fk off.

You're saying that economics aren't important, I'm not sure what to say to that other than to point out that they're hugely important to the people who live & work in Scotland.

Economics are the reason I didn't vote Yes in 2014, I don't want my Son to grow up in a country beset with unemployment & poverty. If the SNP got their currency & economics stuff sorted out, they might well pysh a second referendum.

[JackSnakes]

You're saying that economics aren't important, I'm not sure what to say to that other than to point out that they're hugely important to the people who live & work in Scotland.

Economics are the reason I didn't vote Yes in 2014, I don't want my Son to grow up in a country beset with unemployment & poverty. If the SNP got their currency & economics stuff sorted out, they might well pysh a second referendum.

The reason I say that economics are not important is for a couple of issues:
1) The economy is not a reason why anyone would ever vote for independence
2) No first-world resource-rich country's economy has ever gotten so bad after independence that they are currently 'beset with unemployment and poverty'. It is simply not a plausible scenario.
There is absolutely no question that the economy would take a severe and swift turn for the worse in the immediate aftermath of independence but that is simply a matter of confidence and not a matter of hard currency suddenly not being there.
The lessons of Brexit seem not to have any attention paid to them by either side up there.
One camp thinks everything will be wonderful, the other thinks it will all go to hell in a hand-basket.
Neither is anywhere near the truth but it would be a ridiculous stance to take to believe that an independent Scotland would be a long-term bad idea.
The actuality is that it is unlikely to be worse than what you currently have, with a chance of some movement either side of that

[noahrab]

The reason I say that economics are not important is for a couple of issues:
1) The economy is not a reason why anyone would ever vote for independence
2) No first-world resource-rich country's economy has ever gotten so bad after independence that they are currently 'beset with unemployment and poverty'. It is simply not a plausible scenario.
There is absolutely no question that the economy would take a severe and swift turn for the worse in the immediate aftermath of independence but that is simply a matter of confidence and not a matter of hard currency suddenly not being there.
The lessons of Brexit seem not to have any attention paid to them by either side up there.
One camp thinks everything will be wonderful, the other thinks it will all go to hell in a hand-basket.
Neither is anywhere near the truth but it would be a ridiculous stance to take to believe that an independent Scotland would be a long-term bad idea.
The actuality is that it is unlikely to be worse than what you currently have, with a chance of some movement either side of that

Point 1 is way off the mark.

[JackSnakes]

Point 1 is way off the mark.

I would like you to find me a 'YES' voter whose desire for independence is purely financial