I voted yes....but felt like I'd been kicked in the ba's the day

[JackSnakes]

It's arguably the main issue.

Why?
What does economics have to do with whether or not a country should be independent?
Independence is not about money, it is about sovereignty.
To those for whom it is a solely financial issue, I would say they should not vote for indeopendence because they do not deserve independence.

[noahrab]

Why?
What does economics have to do with whether or not a country should be independent?
Independence is not about money, it is about sovereignty.
To those for whom it is a solely financial issue, I would say they should not vote for indeopendence because they do not deserve independence.

If anyone decided to go and work for themselves instead of working for a company they would look at the financial implications.

Being yer own man is no good if yer skint.

[JackSnakes]

If anyone decided to go and work for themselves instead of working for a company they would look at the financial implications.

Being yer own man is no good if yer skint.

I accept that - do you not think that people should be prepared to take a short term down-turn to prosper in the long run?

Is it an issue that the 'YES' campaign were not prepared to admit that there would be economic fallout from a 'YES' vote?

Would it have changed your mind, or made it easier to accept, if they had been honest and said that the economy would fall off a cliff the morning after a 'YES' vote, but that good governance and financial management would restore confidence and that it would pick up?

UK and EU are really only loosely joined, and that separation is likely to take five years.
England and Scotland are so thoroughly intermixed that a final separation would take at least that plus several more I would imagine.
Given that there can really be no cast-iron guarantees, since world economics is not driven by reality but by opinions, what would need to happen to convince you that independence is a good idea?

There is absolutely no question that, whichever way you spin it, it is a bad idea financially in the immediate short term. Anyone who says otherwise is a bare-faced liar. Scotland may well be resource-rich - I happen to believe it is - but that doesn't mean that the morning after independence a huge waterfall of gold coins will start tumbling down into Holyrood. It would be a long difficult road. Whether it will be worth it in the end is anyone's guess. For some, like me, the prize would only ever be self-governance. The rest is add-ons.
Currency is a sticky one - I would imagine that, since stability is what is required, it would be wise to have a unique currency in the end but, immediately following a 'YES' vote, a significant period of using Sterling would be good whilst preparing the new currency and easing market fears. When confidence has returned, the new currency could be rolled out.
As has been demonstrated by the Brexit thing, Independence will be a shock. A very painful shock, but I believe it would get better.

[noahrab]

I accept that - do you not think that people should be prepared to take a short term down-turn to prosper in the long run?

Is it an issue that the 'YES' campaign were not prepared to admit that there would be economic fallout from a 'YES' vote?

Would it have changed your mind, or made it easier to accept, if they had been honest and said that the economy would fall off a cliff the morning after a 'YES' vote, but that good governance and financial management would restore confidence and that it would pick up?

UK and EU are really only loosely joined, and that separation is likely to take five years.
England and Scotland are so thoroughly intermixed that a final separation would take at least that plus several more I would imagine.
Given that there can really be no cast-iron guarantees, since world economics is not driven by reality but by opinions, what would need to happen to convince you that independence is a good idea?

There is absolutely no question that, whichever way you spin it, it is a bad idea financially in the immediate short term. Anyone who says otherwise is a bare-faced liar. Scotland may well be resource-rich - I happen to believe it is - but that doesn't mean that the morning after independence a huge waterfall of gold coins will start tumbling down into Holyrood. It would be a long difficult road. Whether it will be worth it in the end is anyone's guess. For some, like me, the prize would only ever be self-governance. The rest is add-ons.
Currency is a sticky one - I would imagine that, since stability is what is required, it would be wise to have a unique currency in the end but, immediately following a 'YES' vote, a significant period of using Sterling would be good whilst preparing the new currency and easing market fears. When confidence has returned, the new currency could be rolled out.
As has been demonstrated by the Brexit thing, Independence will be a shock. A very painful shock, but I believe it would get better.

I don't expect it to be a bed of roses nor a smooth transition without pain but those desperate for independence shy away when asked what the risks and pain would be.

They would have us believe it will be the land of milk and honey.

All I want is honesty from them and an indication of income/expenditure and borrowing.

Shouting 'freedom' is a hollow victory if that's all we're left with.