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    I will add that I'm not obsessed with Scotland and being Scottish. Of course I am a proud Scot but also a proud Brit. I have English and Welsh family. I don't know if I have Northern Irish as I have not traced my family tree back. My family have also been big servers in Her Majesty's forces especially the RAF and Navy. I have lost close relatives serving our nation. We all stick together to protect these lands. I think of our union as one big family that competes with and against each other at many different sports. It is just a fantastic thing we have going and to break it up is just wrong IMO.

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    I respect all that Bodie many people have done well out of the Union I can't and wont deny that. But on the other hand many have suffered through Westminsters neo liberal and austerity policies. There's also self respect ! as a bone fide sovereign Nation doesn't it make you slightly uncomfortable to be ruled by another Nation ? That's basically UK politics these days it can be understood very simply 156 constituencies in the affluent SE England alway decides who governs the UK. Tony Blair knew this. I also don't think its a leap into the unknown most sensible folk concede Scotland has all the resources to be a very successful Country. Even Alistair Darling leader of Better together admitted that. The essence of Better Together's message was "" We are Better Together"" when the reality is the two countries of England and Scotland are growing even further apart. Theres a xenophobic bitterness engulfing England at the moment. This Brexit has been the greatest political upheaval in British politics for a very long long time and it is also deepening the divide in the Union. You must see this Bodie and as a Unionist this must worry you. Some Scottish voters like yourself may not relish the thought of another independence referendum, but there is no doubt that what has happened in the past three months has fatally undermined support for the “caring sharing” UK that Gordon Brown and Better Together urged Scots to remain a part of two years ago. And on top of all this all the promises they made to us during Indyref1 are disappearing like snaw aff in dyke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewarty27 View Post
    I respect all that Bodie many people have done well out of the Union I can't and wont deny that. But on the other hand many have suffered through Westminsters neo liberal and austerity policies. There's also self respect ! as a bone fide sovereign Nation doesn't it make you slightly uncomfortable to be ruled by another Nation ? That's basically UK politics these days it can be understood very simply 156 constituencies in the affluent SE England alway decides who governs the UK. Tony Blair knew this. I also don't think its a leap into the unknown most sensible folk concede Scotland has all the resources to be a very successful Country. Even Alistair Darling leader of Better together admitted that. The essence of Better Together's message was "" We are Better Together"" when the reality is the two countries of England and Scotland are growing even further apart. Theres a xenophobic bitterness engulfing England at the moment. This Brexit has been the greatest political upheaval in British politics for a very long long time and it is also deepening the divide in the Union. You must see this Bodie and as a Unionist this must worry you. Some Scottish voters like yourself may not relish the thought of another independence referendum, but there is no doubt that what has happened in the past three months has fatally undermined support for the “caring sharing” UK that Gordon Brown and Better Together urged Scots to remain a part of two years ago. And on top of all this all the promises they made to us during Indyref1 are disappearing like snaw aff in dyke.
    People will suffer no matter what government is in or where that government is based be ot Westminster or Hollyrood. It's not just on these Isles either it's the world over. There will always be people who are not prepared to get off their lazy erses and get a job. There is lots of jobs out there but people are not prepared to work so scrounge off the state which really p1sses me off. Believe me I know some of these people unfortunately.
    You ask about self respect well I've got loads. I've always worked and provided for my family. I have been made redundant twice in my life and both times found a job that payed a hellava lot less. To be governed from Westminster IMO is a good thing as I like being in the Union sharing everything with 60 million rather than 5 million people. I am a proud Scot but it's not the be all and end all as I am even prouder to be British.
    The bottom line is Stewarty the most important thing to me is my family's happiness and they are so I would never put that at risk. I also will not put their future at risk just so Scotland is independent which really means nothing to me. My family is the most important thing in the world, nothing comes close.

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