But like PaulCAFC says earlier in the thread, this season - so far - the stats are better. 16 conceded in 12; take out the Wycombe game, and it's 11 in 11. They're doing something better, surely. Mostly it isn't long ball stuff, unless they're thwarted well by their opponents, and they stop thinking, and trusting themselves. It's been 4-4-2 nearly all the time, and always with young players on the flanks, each of whom have attacking instincts; they're having to discipline themselves, track runners and protect full-backs, and sometimes they just don't, because they're learning. Whichever combination makes up the middle pairing have to cover each other; this is easier when Hollands plays as he's naturally a deeper-lying type. When Jones plays with Bingham, watching it, you don't get the impression that they're so comfortable defensively. On the other hand, if the team are behind, or being denied space, maybe Jones and Bingham, with their quicker feet, would be the better answer; or try a diamond, with Hollands deep, and one of our bright young things at the attacking tip? It was good to see them experiment with that in the 2nd half v Wolves.