Poor recruitment.

[aussieowl]

I was talking about my own personal perspective after a couple of bad results, not that the club, Chansiri/Carlos should look at the last fifteen years or so & think yeah that's OK cos we were pants then, it's just my way of lessening the disappointment of a run of poor form.

I agree with most of what you've said about the team, players, tactics whatever but the bottom line is the results, a good result against Ipswich with the same performance level would have totally different reactions from fans, football is always like this, the keeping of the ball & slow build up with possession is great when you win, same thing when you lose & it's like it's oh so boring....keeping possession gets the oh-lay treatment when the scoreline is favourable & boos when it's not.

It's also like when the team scores in the last minute to draw...feels great, concede a goal in the last minute to draw & the feeling is not so good, same performance level, same result, different feeling. People can argue all day long about players & what position or tactics should be used but again the only thing that matters is the result....nobody complained much when Wilko was long balling us to promotion & doing OK in the top flight & I'm sure the purists would have turned on Big Ron's style if the results had been bad.

Carlos is getting some unfair stick at the moment in my opinion but again that's football.

[hirstyboywonder]

I was talking about my own personal perspective after a couple of bad results, not that the club, Chansiri/Carlos should look at the last fifteen years or so & think yeah that's OK cos we were pants then, it's just my way of lessening the disappointment of a run of poor form.

I agree with most of what you've said about the team, players, tactics whatever but the bottom line is the results, a good result against Ipswich with the same performance level would have totally different reactions from fans, football is always like this, the keeping of the ball & slow build up with possession is great when you win, same thing when you lose & it's like it's oh so boring....keeping possession gets the oh-lay treatment when the scoreline is favourable & boos when it's not.

It's also like when the team scores in the last minute to draw...feels great, concede a goal in the last minute to draw & the feeling is not so good, same performance level, same result, different feeling. People can argue all day long about players & what position or tactics should be used but again the only thing that matters is the result....nobody complained much when Wilko was long balling us to promotion & doing OK in the top flight & I'm sure the purists would have turned on Big Ron's style if the results had been bad.

Carlos is getting some unfair stick at the moment in my opinion but again that's football.

I understand what you are saying, had we got a result against Ipswich we would be sat in the top 6 right now and would have far less complaints. It was an under par performance but had we got a result it would have been ok - we played quite well as Derby but didn't get the rub of the green the weekend before.

Having said that, something isn't quite right. We have a better squad than last season and in patches have played better football but there is just a sense that 1 or 2 of the players aren't happy with how they are being played and playing a central midfielder out wide, whether it be Lee, Bannan or Abdi, isn't working. We have a good enough choice of players to be successful playing 4-4-2 with 2 natural wide players or 4-3-3 with 3 proper midfielders. Pick a shape and don't try and shoe horn players into positions.

[aussieowl]

Somethings not quite right at pretty much all clubs, unless they're in a league position that historically makes them look like they're doing OK...unless we're in the top six then 'something' won't be quite right, a club could be fighting relegation all season but if they are playing in a league above where history says they normally are then it'll be a case of 'we're doing our best', it's acceptable.

Look at Man Utd, not acceptable, something isn't quite right......Leicester, this season is sort of OK because last season they did the impossible, same position/results prior to last season & it would be great because they aren't in a relegation spot, survival in the prem for Leicester prior to last year is a major success, since last year, there might be talk of 'something isn't quite right' in the near future...results hirsty, the only thing that matters over time.