You mean our immigrants were better than their immigrants. Am I alone in wanting an end to mercenary rugby nation switchers (and cricket)? The French "back three" being 2 Fijians and a South African although our south pacific brothers were missing
You mean our immigrants were better than their immigrants. Am I alone in wanting an end to mercenary rugby nation switchers (and cricket)? The French "back three" being 2 Fijians and a South African although our south pacific brothers were missing
Ah not alone it seems AF
Life coach?? What because I get ****ed off with lazy simplistic statements like "Labour bankrupted the country"?
And as point of correction you did not imply there was a slim chance that Labour would implode badly!
My dislike of the Lib Dems is based on
1. Going into coalition with the Tories, when either a minority coalition with labour or not going into coalition and being the party that held the balance of power with tory minority government would have been an ethical choice and reflected the views of the majority of their voters, instead they shamelessly grabbed a chance to be in power albeit as a junior partner in government and then proceeded to renege on their election pledges in return for such things as an alternative voting sysytem where the Tories outflanked and showed them for the rank amateurs they were!
Thats why the party got justly whupped at the last election, because their voters did not expect them to do that and when a party gets it that wrong and demonstrates they do not understand why people vote for them, then they tend to get slaughtered at the next election and deservedly so!
Then you have Cables botched sell off of the Post office -something even Thatcher would not contemplate - at a price well below market value and making the banks they had enlisted to help the sale making millions, so you and me and the rest of Uk tax payers lost out and picked up the bill for the pension scheme.
Then of course we had Danny Alexander claiming rent for his second home that he just "forgot" he had rented to his mate!
It will take the LD's at least two or three elections before they even get double digit numbers of MP's again!
Not sure I buy that the majority of the population are feeling nationalistic, imperialistic or isolationist -its a sizeable proportion, but no more than 30%, but of course politicians pander to these because that % can make a great difference depending upon where the votes are.
As for Trump...he lost the popular vote so not a majority of people and many who voted or chose not to vote were repulsed by Clinton, the Democrats ****ed up pretty bad putting her up! Pretty soon people will realise that he does not have a clue and his way of governing will not be a solution, rather it will be chaos, my prediction is he will not last 4 years!
As for Brexit, theres a good deal of horse trading to come, May is pandering to her eurosceptics at the moment, don't be surprised if the deal looks very different from what she is currently saying.
Have to say that this sort of stuff, did it not start with Zola Budd becoming "British" so she could run in the Olympics makes a mockery, but then what does playing for ones country actually mean these days? There are Turks playing for germany, brazilians for POrtugal, Spain and germany its based on citizenship rather than where they were born - a sign of the times I'm afraid and a reality of the world without borders in which we live.
Wasn't going to offer to be your 'life coach' anyway Swale...don't think you need one. .
Think Basil D'Oliveira was a while before Zola Budd but I really liked him. Isn't there a case for saying that it is not unreasonable for players to represent the country where they have developed their sporting skills? Of course Mo Farah may still not quite fit...a Somalian who seems to live and train in the U.S...until President Spray Tan says otherwise, but at least the U.K. was his properly adopted country from quite an early age.
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I agree to part of your last paragraph. I too think that the final deal will end up not that much different to what we have now. A so called hard brexit is bad for both sides. So a deal will be made where both sides will be able to claim some success. We will get some control over immigration at the expense of a small tarif on the single market. But it's not a case of May pandering to her eurosceptics, it's basic negotiation tactics, you ask for far more than you expect and negotiate down.
All this rubbish talk of May going for a hard brexit is wrong. If she's was truly going for a hard brexit, she would be saying that there will be no discussion and that we're leaving and not interested the eu in any way.
That is where I hope and think we will end up. If only we could get our sh*t together on our side of the table and talk with a single voice I think we will do well, I think the very fact that there will be 28 voices on the other side (27 plus 'the management', Tusk etc) will weaken their position, there was some evidence of vastly differing views coming out of the EU summit over the weekend.