o/t Sack John Bercow immediately

[Ellis_D]

However, the facts show for themselves, the more Muslims that move to your country, the more terror attacks occur (or at least, attempted terror attacks if we manage to prevent them). So the higher rate of Muslims we have, the more terror attacks we will have.

Actually Neveille, I said the more Muslims move to your country, the more terror attacks occur. So I haven't JUST widened it to other European countries, I was arguing that from the start.

[Neville_Davitt]

Actually Neveille, I said the more Muslims move to your country, the more terror attacks occur. So I haven't JUST widened it to other European countries, I was arguing that from the start.

OK, whichever way you want to play this. Show me or point me to any evidence or report that backs up your claim that "more Muslims move into your country, the more terror attacks occur". Any country you want. It really isn't a difficult request.

[Ellis_D]

And what about prison figures? You would surely expect, for example, if a country has a 5% Muslim population, the prison figures would be about the same? Not so. And that is worrying, because they are converting and radicalising a load of young white and black people all over the place.

In the UK: "UK: Muslims fill 44% of high security prisons, out of a 5% Muslim population"

https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.c...im-population/

In America, 15% of the prison population are Muslim, from a country that only has a 0.8% Muslim population:

http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/21/u-...lized-inmates/

Belgium? "While Muslims represent between 4 and 5 per cent of Belgium's entire population, 35 per cent of the incarcerated population is of Muslim descent."

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/article/...307159930/1098

Italy? Only 2.6% of the population are Muslims, yet a third of the prison population are Muslims.

http://www1.adnkronos.com/AKI/Englis...3.0.3731049377

How about the figures that 77% of rapes in Sweden are committed by a 4.4% Muslim population?

The left can lie, or bury their heads in the sand all they like about serious issues with Islam, but the facts and statistics speak for themselves.

[Ellis_D]

OK, whichever way you want to play this. Show me or point me to any evidence or report that backs up your claim that "more Muslims move into your country, the more terror attacks occur". Any country you want. It really isn't a difficult request.

I have already provided a few and there are numerous ones on the internet.

[Ellis_D]

What Islam Isn’t


By Dr. Peter Hammond
FrontPageMagazine. com | Monday, April 21, 2008


"The following is adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat:

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights.’

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

United States — Muslim 1.0%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1%-2%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. (United States ).

France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings) . Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam – Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:


Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons."

https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/m...tion-increase/

[Neville_Davitt]

And what about prison figures? You would surely expect, for example, if a country has a 5% Muslim population, the prison figures would be about the same? Not so. And that is worrying, because they are converting and radicalising a load of young white and black people all over the place.

In the UK: "UK: Muslims fill 44% of high security prisons, out of a 5% Muslim population"

https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.c...im-population/

In America, 15% of the prison population are Muslim, from a country that only has a 0.8% Muslim population:

http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/21/u-...lized-inmates/

Belgium? "While Muslims represent between 4 and 5 per cent of Belgium's entire population, 35 per cent of the incarcerated population is of Muslim descent."

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/article/...307159930/1098

Italy? Only 2.6% of the population are Muslims, yet a third of the prison population are Muslims.

http://www1.adnkronos.com/AKI/Englis...3.0.3731049377

How about the figures that 77% of rapes in Sweden are committed by a 4.4% Muslim population?

The left can lie, or bury their heads in the sand all they like about serious issues with Islam, but the facts and statistics speak for themselves.

"Alternative facts" - are you Kellyanne Conway in disguise?

Ellis D 08/02/17 @ 04:51 p.m. "However the facts show for themselves, the more Muslims that move to your country, the more terror attacks occur (or at least, attempted terror attacks if we manage to prevent them). So the higher rate of Muslims we have, the more terror attacks we will have"

Sorry I must have missed the quote about prisons. What about them? What relevance do they have to the above statement? So for the last time, show me or point me in the direction of the research/evidence that backs up what you said earlier today. The FACT is that you can't and you’re starting to look a bit silly.

[Neville_Davitt]

What Islam Isn’t


By Dr. Peter Hammond
FrontPageMagazine. com | Monday, April 21, 2008


"The following is adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat:

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights.’

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

United States — Muslim 1.0%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1%-2%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. (United States ).

France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings) . Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam – Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:


Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons."

https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/m...tion-increase/

This guy is a government social scientist is he? His research is officially sanctioned by a government department is it? Which government supports this guys work?

[Ellis_D]

"Alternative facts" - are you Kellyanne Conway in disguise?

Ellis D 08/02/17 @ 04:51 p.m. "However the facts show for themselves, the more Muslims that move to your country, the more terror attacks occur (or at least, attempted terror attacks if we manage to prevent them). So the higher rate of Muslims we have, the more terror attacks we will have"

Sorry I must have missed the quote about prisons. What about them? What relevance do they have to the above statement? So for the last time, show me or point me in the direction of the research/evidence that backs up what you said earlier today. The FACT is that you can't and you’re starting to look a bit silly.

My 9.18pm post, which you must have missed, gives several. I'm not doing any more research for you, do your own. France has the highest Muslim population in Europe. France has the most terror attacks in Europe. The two are linked, even if you want to try and pretend they are not.

Our special forces have foiled ten terror attacks in the last two years. Who do you suppose was responsible for all those potential attacks? The more Muslims you let in a country, the more terrorist attacks, or attempted terrorist attacks.

[Ellis_D]

Say whatever you like anyway, "Neville", if you don't think there is a link between the rise in Muslim populations across Europe and the rise of terror attacks across Europe, you are either in denial or blind. Or just chatting sh!t, which is what I think you're doing.

[great_fire]

Guido says the wheels are now in motion to get rid of Bercow.