O/T Tommy Robinson Speaks About Manchester Terror Attack

[harpo88]

What would you guys like to do or have done about it, practically?

[Yak]

How about politicians coming out and speaking the truth that it's a Muslim problem.
Not all muslims are terrorists but a lot of them turn a blind eye to it.
How many non muslims carry out these attacks?
Why can't they be honest instead of selling us short by speaking the same crap.
How about the ones on social media rejoicing that this has happened. Why not arrest them for hate crimes it's verbal threats and provocation?
Nope they darent it's all bull****.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

How about politicians coming out and speaking the truth that it's a Muslim problem.
Not all muslims are terrorists but a lot of them turn a blind eye to it.
How many non muslims carry out these attacks?
Why can't they be honest instead of selling us short by speaking the same crap.
How about the ones on social media rejoicing that this has happened. Why not arrest them for hate crimes it's verbal threats and provocation?
Nope they darent it's all bull****.

It's the same blind eye they used in the child abuse scandal.

[Acido]

What would you guys like to do or have done about it, practically?

Is that coming from a loony left who refuses to admit theres a problem ?
And somebody who also chants 'racist scum' at the people who ARE trying to do something about it ?
BORING

[harpo88]

Um, no, it's a question

[Turfmoorspirit]

What would you guys like to do or have done about it, practically?

Deport or behead anyone who supports Islam. Problem solved !

[Ellis_D]

Deport or behead anyone who supports Islam. Problem solved !

Turf, I agree with you on a lot of things, but I can't agree with you on that statement. I would hope you only made the comment because you have been out drinking, and as it is Bank Holiday weekend, you have got carried away.

I have said in the past that the only way to prevent Islamic terrorism in this country would be to deport all Muslims even British Muslims. I didn't say it was a workable plan, however. Because of the logistics of rounding up every Muslim, the - understandable - opposition you would get from trying to do so, and the problem of working out where exactly where to send the British Muslims to, this plan would be unworkable. When I have mentioned this before, I was saying, if you had a magic wand, what could you do to stop all Islamic extremism in Britain instantly? Wave the wand, all Muslims are moved to Muslim countries. Problem solved. But that of course, is not possible.

What I wouldn't want, EVER, is innocent people of any religion, nationality, race, colour or creed to be killed.

So if you actually meant that, I stand against you. I don't want any innocent people to die. If you were joking or just drunkenly shooting from the hip, then okay. But if you actually mean it, then that does make you as bad as Muslims who say they want to see all non-Muslims killed.

I am as against Nazism as I am against Islamism. Opposite sides of the same coin.

[KerrAvon]

Turf, I agree with you on a lot of things, but I can't agree with you on that statement. I would hope you only made the comment because you have been out drinking, and as it is Bank Holiday weekend, you have got carried away.

I have said in the past that the only way to prevent Islamic terrorism in this country would be to deport all Muslims even British Muslims. I didn't say it was a workable plan, however. Because of the logistics of rounding up every Muslim, the - understandable - opposition you would get from trying to do so, and the problem of working out where exactly where to send the British Muslims to, this plan would be unworkable. When I have mentioned this before, I was saying, if you had a magic wand, what could you do to stop all Islamic extremism in Britain instantly? Wave the wand, all Muslims are moved to Muslim countries. Problem solved. But that of course, is not possible.

What I wouldn't want, EVER, is innocent people of any religion, nationality, race, colour or creed to be killed.

So if you actually meant that, I stand against you. I don't want any innocent people to die. If you were joking or just drunkenly shooting from the hip, then okay. But if you actually mean it, then that does make you as bad as Muslims who say they want to see all non-Muslims killed.

I am as against Nazism as I am against Islamism. Opposite sides of the same coin.

The word apologist gets thrown around in threads like these. Is there any better example than the way that you bend over backwards to defend the actions of the man that you call Tommy? He is fairly heavily convicted, but you explain all those convictions away in a manner that would have even the most dedicated defence advocates blushing. You only grudgingly accept that the ‘charity walk’ was probably a political stunt. You do a Nelsonian ‘I see no ships act’ act when watching the video. Your apologism is spreading too. I see that you now greet Turfmoorspirit’s latest offering by immediately giving him a way out – I would hope you only made the comment because you have been out drinking, and as it is Bank Holiday weekend, you have got carried away.

[Ellis_D]

The word apologist gets thrown around in threads like these. Is there any better example than the way that you bend over backwards to defend the actions of the man that you call Tommy? He is fairly heavily convicted, but you explain all those convictions away in a manner that would have even the most dedicated defence advocates blushing. You only grudgingly accept that the ‘charity walk’ was probably a political stunt. You do a Nelsonian ‘I see no ships act’ act when watching the video. Your apologism is spreading too. I see that you now greet Turfmoorspirit’s latest offering by immediately giving him a way out – I would hope you only made the comment because you have been out drinking, and as it is Bank Holiday weekend, you have got carried away.

I'm not even going to waste both our time by responding to the rest. You are so sure about where you stand, I am so sure about where I stand, and nothing even of us will say will change each other's minds, so it's pointless discussing it further.

I will say, though, that I know more about Tommy's court cases than most on here, if not all, and I was merely trying to show that it's not all as black and white as leftist websites suggest.

And last night I was very drunk myself, and because of the time, very tired. But I was extremely shocked to see what Turf had put. Far from trying to offer him a way out as you suggest, I was merely trying to be diplomatic in my drunken state.

No surprise though, that you only chose to highlight that part if what I said and completely left out everything else I said on the matter.

[KerrAvon]

I'm not even going to waste both our time by responding to the rest. You are so sure about where you stand, I am so sure about where I stand, and nothing even of us will say will change each other's minds, so it's pointless discussing it further.

I will say, though, that I know more about Tommy's court cases than most on here, if not all, and I was merely trying to show that it's not all as black and white as leftist websites suggest.

And last night I was very drunk myself, and because of the time, very tired. But I was extremely shocked to see what Turf had put. Far from trying to offer him a way out as you suggest, I was merely trying to be diplomatic in my drunken state.

No surprise though, that you only chose to highlight that part if what I said and completely left out everything else I said on the matter.

I think we could agree upon many things, Ellis, but never on your internment point, your belief that Anjem Choudary should have been allowed to march in Wootton Basset or upon your attempt to launder Tommy Robinson and his past.

To say that you know more about 'Tommy's' court cases than most on here is a very bold statement. How do you know that? How do you know about 'Tommy's' cases?

As for your complaint about my treatment of your response to Turfmoorsprit, I reproduced the whole of your post. How can you seriously claim that I was being selective?