O/T Tommy Robinson Speaks About Manchester Terror Attack

[Ellis_D]

Just listened to a Muslim spokesman on PM Radio 4 - no doubt anyone who didn't hear can get a transcript or whatever. He didn't support the bomber's action but suggested it was likely a response to UK foreign policy. He further stated the event might "make the British people adopt a more moral policy overseas and question our actions in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya." He blamed the UK government for the situation in Libya where a Muslim friend of his was visiting his family there and they were suffering from poverty and inflation. He concluded by stating that in his opinion the Number 1 concern for British Muslims which was regularly discussed in Muslim households was the unfairness of UK foreign policy. QED.

This old lie. If all western troops pulled out of Muslim lands, that would NOT suddenly stop the terrorism. There is Islamic extremism and terrorism in numerous countries across the globe who don't have troops stationed in Muslim lands. It's all a lie, and yet another excuse that the apologists LOVE to trot out in defence of them. ISIS don't just want British troops out of the Middle East, they want world domination.

[monty_rhodes]

This old lie. If all western troops pulled out of Muslim lands, that would NOT suddenly stop the terrorism. There is Islamic extremism and terrorism in numerous countries across the globe who don't have troops stationed in Muslim lands. It's all a lie, and yet another excuse that the apologists LOVE to trot out in defence of them. ISIS don't just want British troops out of the Middle East, they want world domination.

Ellis, you misunderstand my point. The point of the spokesman's intervention was that Muslim condemnation of the Manchester atrocity is CONDITIONAL. He admits that disapproval of UK foreign policy is widely held by Muslims and that he and other Muslims in the UK see the attack as an INEVITABLE response to those policies. He made the quite appalling suggestion that such attacks might have the benefit of forcing the British people (interestingly he sees these as separate from British Muslims) to demand a more "moral" (ie pro-Muslim) foreign policy.
As for Kempo, strange how to every argument he has personal experience: how convenient he's just been treated by a Muslim doctor and dentist who were both great blokes. I have a doctor and a dentist and have no idea of their religious affiliations. If I did I would no idea of their views on UK foreign policy, homo***uality and a host of other issues. Kempo is simply a fabricator and you should trust nothing he says. Nothing.

[Ellis_D]

Ellis, you misunderstand my point. The point of the spokesman's intervention was that Muslim condemnation of the Manchester atrocity is CONDITIONAL. He admits that disapproval of UK foreign policy is widely held by Muslims and that he and other Muslims in the UK see the attack as an INEVITABLE response to those policies. He made the quite appalling suggestion that such attacks might have the benefit of forcing the British people (interestingly he sees these as separate from British Muslims) to demand a more "moral" (ie pro-Muslim) foreign policy.
As for Kempo, strange how to every argument he has personal experience: how convenient he's just been treated by a Muslim doctor and dentist who were both great blokes. I have a doctor and a dentist and have no idea of their religious affiliations. If I did I would no idea of their views on UK foreign policy, homo***uality and a host of other issues. Kempo is simply a fabricator and you should trust nothing he says. Nothing.

No, I didn't misunderstand it mate. I was just making a separate point about it. I knew that was what the spokesman was saying, as you just explained, but just that it's a lie. Even IF we did bring it all upon ourselves, changing our foreign policy to a more pro-Muslim one would do nothing; ISIS wouldn't suddenly stop what they are doing, and we would still be at danger of terror attacks.