Quote Originally Posted by millmoormagic View Post
At last some positive, sensible thinking Ellis, i totally agree with you about faith schools, also about being a secular society, but we should teach about religion, all religion, and let the children make their own minds up, we should be shouting from the rooftops how great our country is, because the truth is, there isn't many better.

As for the 4000 you keep mentioning, do you not think that these are being monitored, that our security is actually gaining good information from them and their cohorts, who they're talking to, who they're interacting with? I'd like to think they are.
As for those 50,000 who downloaded stuff, wrong, of course, but there's millions of British people downloading all sorts of crap that isn't ever acted out
I worry that not enough are being monitored and that we don't have enough resources to properly monitor them all. The figure might not be as high as 50,000 who would actually carry out the terror attacks, but it would suggest it's a damn sight higher than 4,000. To even want to download such a manual is worrying enough.

Plus the billions of pounds we are wasting every year monitoring these people could be put to much better use if we just shipped a lot of them out. I suppose then the argument would be, the British ones would still cost us money being inside. To which I have two answers. 1. Yes it would, but being locked up in jail prevents them killing anyone, which should always be the main aim, and 2. I have always said that prisons should be much stricter and harsher anyway, we can start by putting EVERY prisoner to work with hard, physical labour. Make them hate it so much they don't want to ever go back.