O/T Tommy Robinson Speaks About Manchester Terror Attack

[great_fire]

Clear to me the 3 main parties, the media, celebrities all have the same PC, globalist, open borders views. It's been decided that the West must be subjected to mass immigration from the third world and any threat to this must be stopped.

This is not in the interests of the public as we see from the grooming gangs and terrorist attacks but it's certainly in someone's interests and you can bet they're getting either money, power or both for doing it.

[Ellis_D]

Says it all really ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEI0TKkX9_o

Exactly. I posted it earlier. It's a disgrace. The violent left were allowed to get away with assault there, and Tommy and Kev Carroll were arrested for doing a charity march for a little girl with cancer, were assaulted and were arrested. The dozy female cop in charge DID NOT have a clue. Not a clue. All she knew was, there was pressure from the top that Robinson and Carroll were anti-Muslim or racist (a lie, half of Tommy's friends are black, he had Muslim friends at his wedding, and Kev used to go out with a black girl and has a mixed race daughter!!!), and that she had to arrest them. Never mind they did nothing wrong and were assaulted.

But still you will get blind people like brasstwohat and Neville Devitt who are so brainwashed they can't see right from wrong there.

[Ellis_D]

Clear to me the 3 main parties, the media, celebrities all have the same PC, globalist, open borders views. It's been decided that the West must be subjected to mass immigration from the third world and any threat to this must be stopped.

This is not in the interests of the public as we see from the grooming gangs and terrorist attacks but it's certainly in someone's interests and you can bet they're getting either money, power or both for doing it.

Exactly right. And we can do without idiots like Katy Perry sticking her nose in. "What we need is open borders and free movement". Course it is love, that will REALLY help the situation. Stick to singing.

[millmoormagic]

Says it all really ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEI0TKkX9_o

Says all what? pathetic.

[millmoormagic]

Well, I guess the difference is. When there are small amounts of Muslims, they are forced to integrate. When there are larger amounts, they choose not to.

You see, me, I am choosing not to socialise with other white parents, for the reasons I stated above. I am quite sure the odd few Muslim families do the same amongst their own and amongst non-Muslims fair enough. But when you have ten or so Muslim couples at the school gates all standing and chatting together but completely ignoring non-Muslim parents, that is when it becomes another issue.

That's bull and you know it fella.

[millmoormagic]

Exactly. I posted it earlier. It's a disgrace. The violent left were allowed to get away with assault there, and Tommy and Kev Carroll were arrested for doing a charity march for a little girl with cancer, were assaulted and were arrested. The dozy female cop in charge DID NOT have a clue. Not a clue. All she knew was, there was pressure from the top that Robinson and Carroll were anti-Muslim or racist (a lie, half of Tommy's friends are black, he had Muslim friends at his wedding, and Kev used to go out with a black girl and has a mixed race daughter!!!), and that she had to arrest them. Never mind they did nothing wrong and were assaulted.

But still you will get blind people like brasstwohat and Neville Devitt who are so brainwashed they can't see right from wrong there.

Yep, i'll give you the fact the bloke throwing the punch should've been arrested, but, as you posted earlier on this thread.."most blokes have been in a few scuffles"

Also, lets get this right, this 'charity walk' they were doing was just a front for them to create publicity for their own ends, Woolwich they were going, to be honest Ellis, i'm surprised you actually gobbled this up, i can understand gf and turf moor sucking it in, but i thought you were brighter than that.

[millmoormagic]

I agree with him in that video, he was right. BUT, now we have made those huge errors over the last 15 or so years, we need to be a presence in the Middle East to try to right those wrongs. If we pull out now, we leave all those poor ****ers out there to have to deal with ISIS on their own. So, yes, we are partly responsible for making the monster, now we need to cut that monster's head off. There's a million different ideas on how to sort this mess out, but no one idea that we can all say, yes that will definitely work.

What we can surely say though, is if we leave the Middle East now, not only do we condemn hundreds of thousands, if not millions of innocent Muslims and Christians to certain death, we also allow IS to grow.

I haven't got time now to debate the IRA and Corbyn thing, but I will tomorrow, because I was already going to mention that, and funnily enough, I disagree with you, I think he absolutely has blood on his hands there, as does McConnell.....

Regarding the subject of voting though, with how much I currently despise the Tories, do you know what, I'd probably even consider voting Labour if they had someone other than Corbyn or Miliband as leader!

So, there you have it, you agree with Corbyn, and you know what, he's been right on most other things he's campaigned on, and we are only 'partly' to blame because the good old US of A is the major player in creating this monster that is ISIS, we're still supporting it in terms of shoving arms into Saudi Arabia (the birthplace of this radical side of islam, i suppose you conveniently forget that) If there ever was a reason to bomb any middle east country then Saudi would be the one, but we're not interested in stopping the killing, only in the oil plainly.

Voting for anything other than Labour hurts you, your kids, your parents and grandparents, and you know this.

[monty_rhodes]

So, there you have it, you agree with Corbyn, and you know what, he's been right on most other things he's campaigned on, and we are only 'partly' to blame because the good old US of A is the major player in creating this monster that is ISIS, we're still supporting it in terms of shoving arms into Saudi Arabia (the birthplace of this radical side of islam, i suppose you conveniently forget that) If there ever was a reason to bomb any middle east country then Saudi would be the one, but we're not interested in stopping the killing, only in the oil plainly.

Voting for anything other than Labour hurts you, your kids, your parents and grandparents, and you know this.

On occasions you present some good arguments, MMM. But what I dislike about your approach is that you are so bloody confident in your views to the point where you confuse an argument with fact. You are ideologically dogmatic - I met dozens like you in the CP, SWP and ANL - and will twist evidence to fit your argument even to the extent of pushing us into disastrous policy decisions.

[millmoormagic]

On occasions you present some good arguments, MMM. But what I dislike about your approach is that you are so bloody confident in your views to the point where you confuse an argument with fact. You are ideologically dogmatic - I met dozens like you in the CP, SWP and ANL - and will twist evidence to fit your argument even to the extent of pushing us into disastrous policy decisions.

So, which policy decision would be disastrous, in that case Monty.......

Also love the fact that you're picking up on what i post rather than some of the unsavoury stuff posted, but heyho, that's life.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

On occasions you present some good arguments, MMM. But what I dislike about your approach is that you are so bloody confident in your views to the point where you confuse an argument with fact. You are ideologically dogmatic - I met dozens like you in the CP, SWP and ANL - and will twist evidence to fit your argument even to the extent of pushing us into disastrous policy decisions.

But that's the way it works isn't it?

Repeat the same lie again and again and it becomes fact in the minds of some.

Like a bad gambler they get so entrenched in their debt they throw money at it to try to claw it back. Same with the fixed views of the zealots, closed minds still living in the past unable to see that the world had changed and like the gambler keep rolling the same wonky dice to justify (to themselves) that theirs is the only correct view.