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    Quote Originally Posted by millmoormagic View Post
    So, there you have it, you agree with Corbyn, and you know what, he's been right on most other things he's campaigned on, and we are only 'partly' to blame because the good old US of A is the major player in creating this monster that is ISIS, we're still supporting it in terms of shoving arms into Saudi Arabia (the birthplace of this radical side of islam, i suppose you conveniently forget that) If there ever was a reason to bomb any middle east country then Saudi would be the one, but we're not interested in stopping the killing, only in the oil plainly.

    Voting for anything other than Labour hurts you, your kids, your parents and grandparents, and you know this.
    I think what will hurt my children more is having a Labour government with Corbyn as PM, when he wants to let in so many more potential terrorists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellis_D View Post
    I think what will hurt my children more is having a Labour government with Corbyn as PM, when he wants to let in so many more potential terrorists.
    he doesn't though, thats the point, and that's why of all the folk who are tagged as blinkered, you, and those that think like you, are the most short sighted of them all, been flannelled by cheap no marks like farage, its a crying shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by millmoormagic View Post
    he doesn't though, thats the point, and that's why of all the folk who are tagged as blinkered, you, and those that think like you, are the most short sighted of them all, been flannelled by cheap no marks like farage, its a crying shame.
    He said, amongst many other things, that we should allow all the 'refugees' at Calais entry to Britain if they had 'family connections' here. Having seen what the men at Calais act like, I'd say they are not the kind of people we want to be welcoming here.

    And with the fact all you see is men trying to jump on trucks, it's even worse. If women and children need saving from war, that's a different story. Men should be there fighting to save their own countries and a future for their children, not running like cowards. That is, of course, if they really are running from war, and not in actual fact, would-be-terrorists or economic migrants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellis_D View Post
    I think what will hurt my children more is having a Labour government with Corbyn as PM, when he wants to let in so many more potential terrorists.
    I disagree - I think of the three main parties, Corbyn is the one most likely to actually DO something in terms of border controls but not for the reasons you would like. In summery, I think people are right in that mass immigration is generally encouraged by this and previous governments is because the corporations that will always put pressure on the government and industry generally want low wages, and the first thing to do here is have far more workers than jobs. Therefore people will undercut one another to do the same job = lower wages, more profits. I see no reason, despite her rhetoric and her shameless playing up on this in order to lure in UKIP and working class voters who are the ones who suffer from the arrangement.

    Historically, Corbyn is against the principle of immigrants being pulled in to undercut current UK citizens and I am certainly convinced that he is, despite the pressures of 'playing the game' that even he falls to on occasion, a man who will act in the best interests of the 'average' working people in the country. Same principles as Tony Benn on the EU.

    Much more likely to do something about the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellis_D View Post
    I think what will hurt my children more is having a Labour government with Corbyn as PM, when he wants to let in so many more potential terrorists.
    IRA, Hamas, Hezbollah, Tamil Tigers, he supported them all, never met a group of terrorists he didn't like.

    Also throughout his life has been anti-British but wants to be British PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by great_fire View Post
    IRA, Hamas, Hezbollah, Tamil Tigers, he supported them all, never met a group of terrorists he didn't like.

    Also throughout his life has been anti-British but wants to be British PM.
    Full of untruths and bull, something we've all come to expect from a liar such as yourself, your credibility is shot, ever since you tried, and failed to post blatant lies and was found out, you bleated on about you didn't know this that and the other, but it was plain as day, lying through your teeth to try and garner support for your twisted views.

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    Corbyn has voted against every bit of anti terrorist legislation that has ever been proposed by the Tories and his own party.

    But to his credit he has been a consistent knobhead over all of his time as an MP.

    In fact he's a hero in some nations other than his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    Corbyn has voted against every bit of anti terrorist legislation that has ever been proposed by the Tories and his own party.

    But to his credit he has been a consistent knobhead over all of his time as an MP.

    In fact he's a hero in some nations other than his own.
    Grist,

    Is there a reason why you won't answer my question about whether you would send your kid to a school with a high mixed ethnic cultural profile but is still an ofsted outstanding grade with good outcomes for students?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragingpup View Post
    Grist,

    Is there a reason why you won't answer my question about whether you would send your kid to a school with a high mixed ethnic cultural profile but is still an ofsted outstanding grade with good outcomes for students?
    My mother once complained to the teacher because my brother was sat on a table which was all Asian apart from him. After being called racist by the teacher she explained that the issue wasn't about race, it was because my brother came home complaining every night that he couldn't understand what they were talking about due to them speaking urdu. I can't remember if it was junior or infant school but it was definitely a point in his life when exposure to the English language with his peers was *****.

    It's not all about racism you know.

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    Genuine question Monty. You were a trotskyite yourself once. I am sort of puzzled how someone on the extreme left can suddenly be changed into an extreme right winger. What happened to the bit in between? I consider myself to be left of centre. Not swp, not sort of centre labour, maybe left labour. If my views were to change they would either push me towards SWP or more central labour...sort of TS incremental. i wouldnt become a Tory overnight even if someone strongly influenced me to let alone UKIP or any other extreme right wing organisation. Its like me becoming an SWFC fan tomorrow. I'm a miller its in my blood. You cant completely erase your life views and suddenly replace them with some completely different ones.

    I suppose what I am trying to say is how can anybody change from one extreme view to another extreme political view in one foul swoop. Surely political views are somewhat entrenched then adjusted because of socialisation etc.For instance, no matter how much anyone tried to persuade him, Elliss far right views at best will only slightly move to the centre because of his entrenched beliefs. Maybe over a long period of time he may become a trotskyite..then again he could become the new Adolph Hitler!
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