O/T Tommy Robinson Speaks About Manchester Terror Attack

[KerrAvon]

Well I thought the point in your first paragraph had already been raised. It is clear what my explanation is - because of the pathetic political correctness we live under, just like in the Rotherham grooming scandal, the police bend over backwards to appease Muslims, and to do everything in their power to not look racist. This includes ignoring young white girls who tell them they are being raped and passed around Muslim men, this includes arresting a 13 year old white girl for being drunk and disorderly when they arrive at a house full of Muslim men and find her there - but none of the men are even questioned never mind arrested, this includes arresting the father of a 14 year old girl who arrives at a house to take his daughter home from a house full of Muslim *****philes and unbelievably leaving her in their clutches.... Yes, just a few little examples. And this also includes repeatedly harassing and persecuting a man who constantly criticises Islam - Tommy Robinson. And it also includes - although this is more down to law makers than law enforcers - not having tighter and stricter controls on people suspected of being terrorist links. Say what you like, but under my system, the Westminster and Manchester attackers would have been in prison and not able to murder loads of people.

I've already made the point earlier that internment would achieve exactly what it did in Ireland.

Your points about the assault video are laughable though. You can tell from everyone's reactions EXACTLY what has happened. Watch it again, but this time with a little less prejudice, and actually try to tell the truth. You can clearly see the arm of the muppet in the blue top move to the side, as he elbows Tommy or shoves him. Unfortunately, you can't see exactly what he did of the two, or with how much force, because, as he does it, the muppet in the red top blocks the camera. However, Tommy falls into the wall. You can tell by Kev Carrolls' reaction that he knows EXACTLY what has happened, because he instantly shouts, "Oi lads! Won't you just facking get out of it."

Now, unlike you, I tell the full truth. You claim that what you saw next was, "Carroll who appears to take exception to person with the blue shirt and starts pushing him." Well, he certainly never starts pushing him. That phrase would indicate he pushes him a few times. In actual fact, you don't even see him push him once on camera. All you see is Carroll with his hands outstretched, well, that could be in a peaceful manner, a pacifist. The man in the blue shirt could have stumbled. You no more know that Kev Carroll pushed that man in the blue top than I do that the man in the blue top pushed Tommy. Try to fair and even-minded.

Again though, it is safe to say what happened because of people's reactions. The man in the blue top pushed Tommy. Tommy's reaction was to fall into the wall. Kev's reaction was to push the man in the blue top. Now, Kev Carroll's reaction to his younger cousin being pushed was to defend him and push back the man coming at him. The man in the blue top's reaction was to punch Kev in the stomach.

Again, you can tell everything that is happening by their reactions. Tommy Robinson and Kev Carroll then speak to the police. You can tell by how incensed Tommy and Kev are that the only person there who has assaulted anyone is the man in the blue top. You can also tell that the police fully understand that it was NOT self defence on the part of the man in the blue top because not one of them who witnessed it says anything of the sort.

Of course, the police were witnesses to the assault and were filming it from the other angle themselves. But they would allow the violent, fascist left to attack Tommy or his friend, and not provide any evidence to support the truth, because that would not allow them to continue with their persecution of Tommy.

The fact you see anything other than that, is, as I said, laughable.

In regards to Tommy's answer on Twitter about being arrested, he was joking. The joke being, the police often arrest him for very little anyway, but even he was surprised to be arrested that day.

And talk about being paranoid, he was mic'd up for the charity walk because his friend was filming it! He has been the victim of assault by Muslims and leftists thugs so many times that he films himself a lot, for his own safety and evidence.

I assume that you are joking when you suggest that I have watched the video with prejudice? Or were you thinking about that person you see a lot of in the mirror when you typed that?

Look, I appreciate that I am threatening a sacred cow of persons of a particular persuasion when I suggest that it provides no conclusive evidence of an assault and I appreciate that ‘Tommy and Kev’ went to a lot of trouble to get it in the first place, but I have watched it many times, just as, I watch videos of alleged offending many times a month as part of my work, and I stand by what I said.

I see that you have to rely upon people’s reactions to try to shore up the assault claim. I am grateful for your confirmation that there is no direct evidence of blue shirt having pushed ‘Tommy’. I can see him unfold his arms, but not what follows, because, as you point out, another person is blocking the view. If there was a coming together, I have no idea of the nature of any contact or who was responsible for the same. And neither do you, even with the benefit of your Tommy tinted spectacles.

‘Kev’s ‘reaction is certainly interesting. As you point out, he refers to ‘lads’, so his reaction is to take offence to multiple person. How is that consistent with a reaction to an assault by a single person?

Where you interpretation of the video gets really funny, however, is your denial that ‘Kev’ pushed blue shirt. How can you miss the two handed push? I’d take those Tommy tints back to the shop, if I were you. You can even hear the slap of it making contact! If it helps, it’s at 0:29 and immediately precedes blue shirt turning and reacting to ‘Kev’. I don’t really get the next bit of your post. You deny that ‘Kev’ pushed blue shirt then immediately say that he pushed him. You may want to think again about that passage.

The police tell ‘Tommy’ that they are dealing with blue shirt (when they can get a word in edge ways). They don’t enter into debate about who did what and nor would you expect them to.

You also rely upon Tommy’s reaction to what happened. As far as I can see he goes into full blown ‘Tommy’ mode, shrieking, shouting, and talking over the top of people rather than listening. If that is evidence of him being assaulted, I must say that he most have been assaulted in just about every video in which I have seen him interacting with others.

More interestingly is ‘Tommy’s’ assertion at 1:22 that blue shirt had smacked someone in the face. I note that not even you are trying to make that claim. That leaves us with the position that either he is deliberately seeking to mislead, or hasn’t got a clue about what exactly happened. I’ll be charitable to him (see what I did there) and assume that it is the latter. I’m with him on that, even with video evidence it is impossible to say what happened with certainty, which is why I say that nobody would be convicted upon that recording alone.

I also love your explanation for the tweet that was reported in The Independent. I’d be interested in how you know it was a joke. What's your source? Did he tell you that or did you find that ‘fact’ on another website? Or did you make it up?

As for the mic., a friend of mine has just completed the three peaks for charity (for childhood cancer, as it happens). I haven’t asked her why she chose that challenge as opposed to walking through London past the site of the East London mosque and on to the site of the killing of Lee Rigby. She also didn’t wear a microphone and arrange for the attendance of video journalist. Mind you, I think that she was concerned with the physical challenge nd raising money as opposed to taking part in a political stunt. She got what she wanted from it though, just like ‘Tommy’.

Your last paragraph, I answered in my first paragraph. Although, I can't remember where I said the state were 100% accurate and reliable when it comes to Muslim watch lists. I said they have information of something as they don't just put random Muslims on this list for no reason. They don't just think, "Oh, he is brown or has a beard, or I once saw him walking past a mosque, so he MUST be a terrorist." They have clear information that puts them on that list. Information, that if they do not act upon will mean the murders of many people. If they had information that Tommy Robinson was a potential terrorist, then I would say indefinitely lock him up too. But they haven't. So instead they try to lock him up for loads of other things because he tells the uncomfortable truth that the left don't want to hear.

Do you work for the security services? You are claiming a lot of knowledge about how watch lists are compiled. Then again, you also claim to have a lot of knowledge about the working of 'Tommy's' mind and his motivations such as to be able to apologise for him and explain away some of his less savoury actions..