O/T Tommy Robinson Speaks About Manchester Terror Attack

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On a separate note, I saw a video earlier of the terrorist being held down by some Muslims. Those Muslims should undoubtedly be commended. Some other Muslims were kicking him and trying to hit him., and three or four were stopping them, whilst also pinning him down for the police to sort out.

That is, of course, the correct action to take if we believe in law and order. Those Muslims clearly abide by our laws, and I love them for that.

Because they have just witnessed their friends and maybe even family members being run over by a nutjob terrorist. It takes a lot of restraint to not want to kick the bloke's head off his shoulders for that. I would have wanted to had I been there. Some of the men there did. But the ones holding him down and ensuring he wasn't attacked saved his life, and also saved their friends from jail because some would have wanted to beat him to death, and I can't blame them to be honest.

Well said here Ellis. Agree 100%

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Islamophobic attacks in Manchester surge by 500% after arena attack

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...e-arena-attack


This is what happens when we openly pursue simplistic reactionary agendas.

If you say that Islam is the root problem, you are directly implying that anyone who follows that religion is part of the problem, including the vast majority of peaceful Muslims.

Consequently, people are acting out racially motivated acts on random Muslims.

As a result, a minority of the Muslim community, threatened by these attacks look to other sources for belonging, that sympathises with their fear and offers them bloody options, vengeance.

As discussed earlier: to blame Islam as a religion, the text, is to generalise the blame to all people who follow that religion and therefore to make them legitimate targets for our own lunatics. If you spread that nonsense around, you are part of the vicious cycle of which we are part.

But most frustratingly of all, it is a completely pointless assertion: you can cry that the Quar'an is the problem, that Islam is to blame, you can take it into TV debates and wave it around but as I asked earlier (to which no one replied with an answer): what are you suggesting that we DO about it? Ban a religion? Ban the book? Ban the idea? erase it from people's heads and hearts?

We need practical, logical and sensible ideas, things that work. Some good ones have been proposed by various people on here, and we need to collectively run with those. But this continual shouting against an entire religion with no actual follow up proposal of cohesive action only leads to the actions of this report.

Giving Isis EXACTLY what they want.