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    Be good to hear it straight from the horse's mouth so to speak

    "think Riverpool not Man Cirree.................."

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomytony View Post
    Be good to hear it straight from the horse's mouth so to speak

    "think Riverpool not Man Cirree.................."
    I'm not sure it would be a good thing to be owned lock stock by foreigners who have no idea or interest in a club's culture, but I think it must be pretty clear by now that McCabe hasn't really actively looked to sell the club or his share of the club. Even the Prince's involvement came about due to a chance meeting in an airport lounge. For the record I think the Prince's contributions did help stabilise the club when things were looking a bit dodgy, but that's a million miles from what's needed to really take us forward so we can complete financially. I don't think him or McCabe have the financial clout to do that.

    If you look at the list of clubs that have had major investment or new ownership since we were in the Premiership, it's beyond belief that potential owners or investors haven't come forward to take a look at us. We've got to be as good or better a bet to invest in as any club outside the very top clubs on the face of it with the ground (he owns) academy, set-up, history and support, it's all there waiting to kick on. So there can be really no other deduction to make IMO then McCabe and his family had and have no intention of selling the club (for whatever reason), and are hoping that in Wilder, they've now got a manager who can maintain our Championship status on a low end budget or even follow in the steps of David Wagner at Huddersfield. They'll be no planned promotion push anytime soon, it'll be suck it and see and hope that a team comes good like last season, or the two good seasons under Warnock. And for the record, it still wouldn't surprise me if we sell Brookes just before the deadline because we still haven't had our annual kick in the nuts.

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    I don't want Chinese owners, nor Thai Owners, nor American Owners, nor Indian Owners..............I want my team to remain British owned. For the few success stories, there are more horror stories.

    Money isn't everything - and unless you have an absolute shedload, like Chelski/Citeh.........it doesn't buy you success.

    Am happy with the way things are at the moment - and am happy to be patient and see how this season goes. Its good to be back in the Championship. We have a decent squad who play good football....they are finding their feet.

    If and when they get back into the Premiership, under Chris Wilder, it will be worth the wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayBlade View Post
    I'm not sure it would be a good thing to be owned lock stock by foreigners who have no idea or interest in a club's culture, but I think it must be pretty clear by now that McCabe hasn't really actively looked to sell the club or his share of the club. Even the Prince's involvement came about due to a chance meeting in an airport lounge. For the record I think the Prince's contributions did help stabilise the club when things were looking a bit dodgy, but that's a million miles from what's needed to really take us forward so we can complete financially. I don't think him or McCabe have the financial clout to do that.

    If you look at the list of clubs that have had major investment or new ownership since we were in the Premiership, it's beyond belief that potential owners or investors haven't come forward to take a look at us. We've got to be as good or better a bet to invest in as any club outside the very top clubs on the face of it with the ground (he owns) academy, set-up, history and support, it's all there waiting to kick on. So there can be really no other deduction to make IMO then McCabe and his family had and have no intention of selling the club (for whatever reason), and are hoping that in Wilder, they've now got a manager who can maintain our Championship status on a low end budget or even follow in the steps of David Wagner at Huddersfield. They'll be no planned promotion push anytime soon, it'll be suck it and see and hope that a team comes good like last season, or the two good seasons under Warnock. And for the record, it still wouldn't surprise me if we sell Brookes just before the deadline because we still haven't had our annual kick in the nuts.
    But when you are 50% foreign owned AND promised significant investment when regaining Champ status then all you do is raise expectations which, if, subsequently, you don't fulfil them, then you put yourself up there to be shot at.

    Why even say it if you can't/won't /don't ( take your pick)have any intention of fulfilling those promises?

    As for not wanting to sell, well, maybe the job for the boy clause or other unknown (to us) factors have prevented any bids coming to fruition or public knowledge.

    Based on the this and like a couple of posters above maybe McC is ( easily)satisfied with where we are.

    For me not to strive for for the very top of whatever you do is tacit to settling for second best and that 'easliy pleased' bracket is not one I would ever wish to be associated with, whtaever the aim, personal or anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomytony View Post
    But when you are 50% foreign owned AND promised significant investment when regaining Champ status then all you do is raise expectations which, if, subsequently, you don't fulfil them, then you put yourself up there to be shot at.

    Why even say it if you can't/won't /don't ( take your pick)have any intention of fulfilling those promises?

    As for not wanting to sell, well, maybe the job for the boy clause or other unknown (to us) factors have prevented any bids coming to fruition or public knowledge.

    Based on the this and like a couple of posters above maybe McC is ( easily)satisfied with where we are.

    For me not to strive for for the very top of whatever you do is tacit to settling for second best and that 'easliy pleased' bracket is not one I would ever wish to be associated with, whtaever the aim, personal or anything else.
    Unless of course you're doing well enough in your overall business empire and your other assets, so it means you don't have to strive too hard in one of them, but I don't believe that anybody would stick around as long as he has unless there was some advantage to be gained by him putting his hand in his pocket to keep the loss making part of his empire afloat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayBlade View Post
    Unless of course you're doing well enough in your overall business empire and your other assets, so it means you don't have to strive too hard in one of them, but I don't believe that anybody would stick around as long as he has unless there was some advantage to be gained by him putting his hand in his pocket to keep the loss making part of his empire afloat.
    You'll have the 'accountants'descending on you now to tell you there are no advantages to owning SUFC that can or do affect the overall empire.

    It's purely a selfless act of love,loyalty and support for his boyhood club, absolutely no other reason to stay involved, he just feels 'obliged' to look after us .................................................. ....and , maybe, himself?

    Doff your cap, say 'thank you so much kind sir' ,he may be watching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayBlade View Post
    Unless of course you're doing well enough in your overall business empire and your other assets, so it means you don't have to strive too hard in one of them, but I don't believe that anybody would stick around as long as he has unless there was some advantage to be gained by him putting his hand in his pocket to keep the loss making part of his empire afloat.
    Speaking as one of the 'easily pleased', I'd say KevMc is in this because he sees the club as something he is custodian of. It like having a child. They will always find new ways to disappoint you but you keep bailing them out and you love them just the same.

    As its Sunday, I think a verse from the Bible might be appropriate. Today's is Mathew 16:26 (paraphrased)

    "What good will it be for a football club to gain the whole world, yet forfeit its soul?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by FatherKnowsBest View Post
    Speaking as one of the 'easily pleased', I'd say KevMc is in this because he sees the club as something he is custodian of. It like having a child. They will always find new ways to disappoint you but you keep bailing them out and you love them just the same.

    As its Sunday, I think a verse from the Bible might be appropriate. Today's is Mathew 16:26 (paraphrased)

    "What good will it be for a football club to gain the whole world, yet forfeit its soul?"
    Very aptly put Father, although it wouldn't reallay apply to those from southern Barnsley as they all sold their souls to the dark side years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayBlade View Post
    Very aptly put Father, although it wouldn't reallay apply to those from southern Barnsley as they all sold their souls to the dark side years ago.
    I thought he'd been on the communion wine Gray

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