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Thread: Online abuse now a hate crime!

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    This isn't party politics.

    The CPS exists to ensure that wrongdoers are brought to justice, victims of crime are supported and that people feel safer in their communities.
    It
    Advises the police on cases for possible prosecution
    Reviews cases submitted by the police for prosecution
    Where the decision is to prosecute, determines the charge in the more serious and complex cases
    Prepares cases for court
    Presents those cases at court

    http://www.cps.gov.uk/yourcps.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcolner View Post
    This isn't party politics.

    The CPS exists to ensure that wrongdoers are brought to justice, victims of crime are supported and that people feel safer in their communities.
    It
    Advises the police on cases for possible prosecution
    Reviews cases submitted by the police for prosecution
    Where the decision is to prosecute, determines the charge in the more serious and complex cases
    Prepares cases for court
    Presents those cases at court

    http://www.cps.gov.uk/yourcps.html
    You happy with the State deciding who is charged for what hate crime they decide is worthy of their attention. Highly dangerous in a free society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadlydave View Post
    You happy with the State deciding who is charged for what hate crime they decide is worthy of their attention. Highly dangerous in a free society.
    You misunderstand it's origins.

    It is an independent authority here are

    Facts about the CPS

    The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) is the principal prosecuting authority for England and Wales.
    Established as an independent body in 1986 to prosecute criminal cases, we work closely with the police and other investigators to advise on lines of inquiry and decide on appropriate charges or other outcomes, in accordance with the Code for Crown Prosecutors. CPS prosecutors prepare cases for court and present cases in both the magistrates' courts and the higher courts.
    The Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) is the head of the CPS and operates independently, under the superintendence of the Attorney General. As a government minister, the Attorney is accountable to Parliament for the work of the CPS.
    The CPS consists of: 14 geographical Areas across England and Wales; three Casework Divisions; our CPS Direct service, our CPS Proceeds of Crime and a Headquarters.
    A Chief Crown Prosecutor (CCP) leads each Area and is responsible for the provision of a high quality prosecution service. Deputy Chief Crown Prosecutors (DCCP) and Area Business Managers (ABM) assist the CCPs.
    The three specialist casework divisions are: the Specialist Fraud Division (which also incorporates Welfare Rural & Health), the Special Crime & Counter Terrorism Division and the International Justice and Organised Crime Division. They deal with challenging cases that require specialist experience, including the prosecution of cases investigated by:
    National Crime Agency
    UK Border Agency
    Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs
    Department for Work and Pensions
    Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
    Department of Health and
    Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency
    We are committed to delivering a high quality prosecution service, as expressed in our casework quality standards – while responding to the needs of the victims and witnesses of crime; being open and answerable to the wider public we serve; and offering excellent value for money.
    In March 2016 we employed a workforce of approximately 5,461 staff (full time equivalent), comprising 2,131 frontline prosecutors (of whom 302 are Crown Advocates) and 2,970 legal caseworkers and support staff (of whom 197 are Associate Prosecutors). Over 93% of our people work at delivering our frontline prosecution service.

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    Don't fall for this one oldcolner. The CPS are puppets of the Attorney General who is appointed by the Government of the day.

    The "We" might just give you a clue...

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    You're right BT, the CPS is no more independent than you are, it bends to whichever way the latest PC wind is blowing, which is why they've taken it upon themselves to pander to the latest PC fad, and instigate a crackdown on 'social media hate crime'. This is not the decision of an independent body, it's a blatantly politically driven decision.

    Have a look at previous CPS directors, Barbara Mills, member of the Labour Party, David Calvert-Smith, appointed by the CRE to head it's inquiry into racism in the police, tells you all you need to know about his political inclination, Ken MacDonald, now a Lib Dem life peer in the House of Lords, Keir Starmer, a member of Labour's Shadow Cabinet. One PC driven left-wing patsy after another, independent my arse.
    Last edited by sinkov; 21-08-2017 at 09:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Don't fall for this one oldcolner. The CPS are puppets of the Attorney General who is appointed by the Government of the day.

    The "We" might just give you a clue...
    Spot on BT & Sinkov; when has trusting the State worked out just great when your views oppose the States agenda? The state now sets it's own rules on what can or cannot be tolerated as matter of ciminality - incredibly dangerous.
    Last edited by Deadlydave; 21-08-2017 at 09:20 PM.

  7. #17
    This is the sort of s h i t e that happens when journalists try to question the Government of the day.

    Cameron sold his soul, lied through his teeth and let everyone else drown while he sailed off into the sunset leaving Brookes and Coulson deep in the do-do! Blair incidentally, did exactly the same. Where were the CPS when the Chilcot enquiry was revealed?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...nt-reform.html

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    So...what you are suggesting is anarchy?

    Be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1959_60 View Post
    So...what you are suggesting is anarchy?

    Be honest.
    No! I am suggesting the right to have independent, investigative journalism free from constant judicial interference and a neutral, honest and transparent Crown Prosecution Service free from Machiavellian political interference.

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    This is how i see it !!!

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