so now we know our squad

[Jezleeds]

Quote - "Disagree on the heritage point, where we come from has to affect who we are and where we're going, no matter what walk of life."

Which heritage positively or negatively affects people and in which way, in your opinion WTF?

[WTF11]

Quote - "Disagree on the heritage point, where we come from has to affect who we are and where we're going, no matter what walk of life."

Which heritage positively or negatively affects people and in which way, in your opinion WTF?

Heritage is heritage don't you think Jez? Decomposing (or trying to) isn't really possible, bit like trying to extract a particular part of your brain whilst leaving the rest unaffected, unlikely to be very successful! Same when you consider football, not possible to extract bits of what the club does and analyse separately to establish what has been good or bad (apart from anything else, "good or bad" is a matter of opinion, as we have seen in this thread). Obviously we won't know what heritage is left by the current owner, it's always a case of looking back at what happened, and we're not there yet.

Sorry if I'm not answering your question directly, I just don't think I (or anyone else) can (at least not without literally writing a book!)

[Tichi1]

Heritage is heritage don't you think Jez? Decomposing (or trying to) isn't really possible, bit like trying to extract a particular part of your brain whilst leaving the rest unaffected, unlikely to be very successful! Same when you consider football, not possible to extract bits of what the club does and analyse separately to establish what has been good or bad (apart from anything else, "good or bad" is a matter of opinion, as we have seen in this thread). Obviously we won't know what heritage is left by the current owner, it's always a case of looking back at what happened, and we're not there yet.

Sorry if I'm not answering your question directly, I just don't think I (or anyone else) can (at least not without literally writing a book!)

So ..."bit like trying to extract a particular part of your brain whilst leaving the rest unaffected, unlikely to be very successful! " Have to Disagree....
The bit of YOUR brain that tells you when to "leave it" or to "Not always have the last word" has either been removed successfully or wasn't there in the first place.

Similarly - "It's not possible to extract bits of what the club does and analyse separately to establish what has been good or bad" - This is what YOU do about EVERYTHING the club does.....apart from the "Good" bit that is.

As you are fond of telling others - you need to read some of your own posts before posting something so contradictory.

no doubt i've missed the point again or something similar will be winging it's way back within the hour!

[WTF11]

So ..."bit like trying to extract a particular part of your brain whilst leaving the rest unaffected, unlikely to be very successful! " Have to Disagree....
The bit of YOUR brain that tells you when to "leave it" or to "Not always have the last word" has either been removed successfully or wasn't there in the first place.

Similarly - "It's not possible to extract bits of what the club does and analyse separately to establish what has been good or bad" - This is what YOU do about EVERYTHING the club does.....apart from the "Good" bit that is.

As you are fond of telling others - you need to read some of your own posts before posting something so contradictory.

no doubt i've missed the point again or something similar will be winging it's way back within the hour!

Selective quoting, not missing the point, just misconstruing it.

[george_kaplan]

"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked. "Oh you can't help that," said the cat, "we're all mad here. I'm mad, your mad."
"How do you know I'm mad" said Alice.
"You must be" said the cat "or you wouldn't have come here."

[españablanco73]

quality George!

[OldWhiteTaff]

F00k me this is getting a bit abstract intellectual........ From my perspective it's quite simple, if you want to be successful in this day and age in the conventional sense (i.e. winning things, or at least competing in the higher levels of any of the top European leagues) then it's almost impossible to do it without drawing from the widest possible player pool. As has been pointed out, for any club to be successful with a squad 90% made up of national players would be extremely expensive, but I would add that given the relative quality of UK players I would say it would be almost impossible in the PL even if pockets were deep enough - for example, if England played in the PL would they be a top four team ? I'm not sure they would. So if you want football success as usually defined then you're going to have to accept a cosmopolitan squad. And if not then maybe you need to redefine what you want from the team you support, or look elsewhere, for example I'd imagine the vast majority of Guiseley FC are local lads ???