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    It was never a red card in a month of Sunday's.
    The referee has basically made a decision on the aftermath rather than the actual situation.

    Looking at it from the logical point of view, you have to say that there was clearly a red card offence but not Mane's. It was their keeper who should have walked with a red for the clear foul on Mane as the last man.

    The keeper left his own area and became an outfield player who went in head first like a bull in a China shop into Mane, who was clearly only observing the ball, anyway.

    Having said all of that, it comes down to the letter of the law, which is always going to side with the injured party and also the referee on this type of occasion.

    This kind of issue can easily be resolved by (like I mentioned earlier) penalising goalkeepers for playing the ball outside of their 18 yard box or making any contact with an opposition player outside of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    It was never a red card in a month of Sunday's.
    The referee has basically made a decision on the aftermath rather than the actual situation.

    Looking at it from the logical point of view, you have to say that there was clearly a red card offence but not Mane's. It was their keeper who should have walked with a red for the clear foul on Mane as the last man.

    The keeper left his own area and became an outfield player who went in head first like a bull in a China shop into Mane, who was clearly only observing the ball, anyway.

    Having said all of that, it comes down to the letter of the law, which is always going to side with the injured party and also the referee on this type of occasion.

    This kind of issue can easily be resolved by (like I mentioned earlier) penalising goalkeepers for playing the ball outside of their 18 yard box or making any contact with an opposition player outside of it.
    You can't have rules restricting some players from some parts of the pitch.

    What about the situation where a GK has come right up the field for a very late corner or free kick and scored.

    Or a GK building up an attack as the opposing team are retreating and him playing the ball further up the pitch to get more range before he kicks out.

    That would be too much of a retrograde game changer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ex_pat_magpie View Post
    You can't have rules restricting some players from some parts of the pitch.

    What about the situation where a GK has come right up the field for a very late corner or free kick and scored.

    Or a GK building up an attack as the opposing team are retreating and him playing the ball further up the pitch to get more range before he kicks out.

    That would be too much of a retrograde game changer.
    Do away with it.
    A goalkeeper command his area and that's it.

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    Yes but doing that wouldn't prevent actions such as yesterday's as they still occur inside the 18 yd area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    Do away with it.
    A goalkeeper command his area and that's it.

    Yes but doing that wouldn't prevent actions such as yesterday's as they still occur inside the 18 yd area.

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    [QUOTE=ghostrider;38648916]
    Do away with it.
    A goalkeeper command his area and that's it.

    Quote Originally Posted by ex_pat_magpie View Post
    Yes but doing that wouldn't prevent actions such as yesterday's as they still occur inside the 18 yd area.
    Yes but in that case the keeper can use his hands to catch or punch the ball away and failing that would leave no doubt about a sending off for Mane.

    If anything ( and I know how this will not go down too well) I think the keeper should have been sent off for stopping a goalscoring opportunity by clattering Mane by going in like a bull in a Chine shop.

    Like I mentioned earlier, it was the injury that changed the entire mindset of the ref.

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    [QUOTE=ghostrider;38649926]
    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    Do away with it.
    A goalkeeper command his area and that's it.

    Yes but in that case the keeper can use his hands to catch or punch the ball away and failing that would leave no doubt about a sending off for Mane.

    If anything ( and I know how this will not go down too well) I think the keeper should have been sent off for stopping a goalscoring opportunity by clattering Mane by going in like a bull in a Chine shop.

    Like I mentioned earlier, it was the injury that changed the entire mindset of the ref.
    According to a former top referee both were sendings off under today's rules which say you can't put another player in danger with a high foot with studs showing.A scissor or bicycle kick is only allowed if you don't endanger another player.It doesnt matter if there is an injury or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ex_pat_magpie View Post
    You can't have rules restricting some players from some parts of the pitch.

    What about the situation where a GK has come right up the field for a very late corner or free kick and scored.

    Or a GK building up an attack as the opposing team are retreating and him playing the ball further up the pitch to get more range before he kicks out.

    That would be too much of a retrograde game changer.
    This.

    Basically, there's no solving situations like these. They will always occur and then it's down to matter of opinion. I can see why the ref would give Mané a red in a situation like that. I also think the GK is partly responsible himself; so yes Toptoon, let's settle for a yellow

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    Having said all of that, it comes down to the letter of the law, which is always going to side with the injured party and also the referee on this type of occasion.
    Don´t forget, there was a GK involved and 'danger of a goal' which always seem to weigh heavily in favour of the referee penalising the attacking side.

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