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  1. #1
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    Think you are being a little unfair on NG. Agreed RB is not his natural position, but in each game at RB he has improved and has not let us down. Think he would be an excellent defensive midfielder, but at this moment it is not going to happen.

    For me our midfield 3 is an easy one. Grant, Walker and Wintle. Ainley and Lowery are not physically strong enough for league2 and disappear out of the game too easily. Never really been a fan of Jones.

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    [QUOTE=ruocul;38657550

    For me our midfield 3 is an easy one. Grant, Walker and Wintle. [/QUOTE]

    Don't see how you can say that when Grant has played all of 20(?) mins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruocul View Post
    Think you are being a little unfair on NG. Agreed RB is not his natural position, but in each game at RB he has improved and has not let us down. Think he would be an excellent defensive midfielder, but at this moment it is not going to happen.

    For me our midfield 3 is an easy one. Grant, Walker and Wintle. Ainley and Lowery are not physically strong enough for league2 and disappear out of the game too easily. Never really been a fan of Jones.
    Agreed, he has improved from the start of the season and has done well at RB on occasions but it just seems like nothing has changed to address the RB situation where we have been crying out for an actual full-back to play in that position for 2/3 seasons now.

    Jones is an interesting one because I'm still not quite sure what type of midfielder I would class him as yet, I still think he's finding his best suited role but does chip in with his fair share of goals. Personally for me, Ainley and Lowery seem to excel when teams come to Crewe and attempt to play football, but agreed they aren't quite strong enough for League 2 yet although Lowery is more than capable of putting in a tackle.

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    We should finish in the top half of the table. DA is still looking to field his best team and the younger players are unsurprisingly inconsistent and unable to handle the more physical teams - perhaps with the except of Wintle who has improved considerably from last season. Walker is not a LB and, like others, I would have played Nolan instead. I think Ng has a lot of potential and could certainly become a decent defensive midfielder. He could do a good job at RB with a bit more experience and looks potentially better than Turton. Still, I agree with others that a winger is needed and Ng be pencilled in for RB once Ray is fit and playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruocul View Post
    Think you are being a little unfair on NG. Agreed RB is not his natural position, but in each game at RB he has improved and has not let us down. Think he would be an excellent defensive midfielder, but at this moment it is not going to happen.

    For me our midfield 3 is an easy one. Grant, Walker and Wintle. Ainley and Lowery are not physically strong enough for league2 and disappear out of the game too easily. Never really been a fan of Jones.
    58 mins of Grant yesterday. Although a bit early for definitive judgement, I thought he was a waste of time. Would much rather play 'one of ours' than a loanee putting in a performance like that.

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    We have to start by playing players in their correct positions and not playing them out of position to accommodate others, showing that we have a threadbare squad. I know that Jones and Ray are long term absentees but all teams have to deal with this. Goalkeeper wise, as somebody mentioned on Twitter, if Richards isn't given a chance now, what's the point in signing him on for another year and he must be thinking the same? A massive crossroads we are at with the two away games to come. I still think that we are better than last year, is that my heart or head telling me that? We will see.

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    I think we are better than last year - but also worse (based solely on the Carlisle game). For ten minutes we looked as if we were going to romp it. There was fluid, accurate play and we really should have been in front. Then they scored a soft, easy goal against the run of play and we totally collapsed - no energy, no skill, inaccurate passing, heads down and a tactical gift to a resurgent Carlisle.
    I wasn't at Grimsby or Exeter, I was at Chesterfield (they were as bad as we were yesterday), and Cambridge. Unless the manager sorts out this - on paper - perfectly capable squad, then we are in for a struggle - again.
    If the Carlisle game was an aberration, then we could pick up again; if we lose the next three I fear we are in big trouble.

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    Yes, that performance and result was dreadful yesterday. Both management and playing staff have to take responsibility for inflicting such an afternoon of misery on supporters of the Alex. Our recent run of form is worrying, but I would suggest that we all give Artell some slack and allow him time to get things back on track. We had to put up with far worse and over a much longer period of time with the previous manager, when things started to go wrong. He was given an enormous period of time to attempt to turn things around. Obviously, the club cannot give this manager the same amount of leeway as they did with Davis, but Artell must be given a fighting chance to get things right.
    Last edited by alexmick; 24-09-2017 at 06:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexmick View Post
    Obviously, the club cannot give this manager the same amount of leeway as they did with Davis, but Artell must be given a fighting chance to get things right.
    Some fans on social media are suggesting otherwise, but that isn't the 'Crewe way'. nor is it, in my opinion, the right way to deal with the higher reaches of managership. Artell has proved that he can motivate (although that is beginning to look like 'on-the-rebound' from a guy who had clearly had his time with us), but the real test is now.
    I had a chat to Davis a long while ago and we agreed, at the time laughingly, that his enormous success in his first 20 months (Wembley twice, successfully) had become a millstone. Perhaps Artell will have the contrary professional trajectory of his managership: start the season this poorly, followed by a resurgence later? Artell, like any Alex manager, will always have my support, even and especially when things get tough, but that must be reciprocated and balanced by, if needed, direct criticism.

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    Agreed, AL. And it's no good just saying the players weren't trying, although when such criticism is justified it should be said.

    But the manager must be prepared to say when he got it wrong. Ainley is clearly not a wing back; you could see that after 10 minutes on Saturday. Cooper likewise. And yet we had Pickering and Bakayogo on the bench. Go figure. OK he lost Perry in the morning, but there were so many square pegs in round holes along the back it was bound to go tits up.

    Dagnall dropping deep? No thanks, not good enough at that and not where we want him.

    I could go on, and have on another thread! But be honest, Dave - did YOU do as well as you could have? You'll earn our respect if you're as honest as I think you are.

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