Quote Originally Posted by tomytony View Post

Often the 'pro team' tell us we may well have gone to the wall without his backing. What,Like all the others? is my retort to that.
The argument was that his continued ownership of the club has held it back, whereas it is entirely possible that it is the opposite that is true. Its hard to blame the guy based on a hypothetical argument.


Quote Originally Posted by tomytony View Post

The 'pros' can't have it both ways. One minute he's totally in charge, 'major shareholder' etc, the next he was swayed by others.He's either in charge and responsible or he's not. I think we all know the truth behind that one- it's his club, he's the owner.
Leaders don't exist in a bubble as you well know. Everyone has advisors and influencers around them. In the end it is his decision, but that does not mean he hasn't been badly advised. Neither of these are mutually exclusive as you seem to be suggesting.

It was only yesterday TT that you were accusing me of arrogance about a light hearted comment about you 'banging-on' about King Kev, yet here you are claiming a full keep-net, (although I think you need a bit more than collecting posters who are simply pointing out the logical flaws and absurd positions of your arguments) Frankly, pot and grimy arrse spring to mind...