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    Quote Originally Posted by macse15 View Post
    No he hasnt. You cant be found guilty of something you havent been charged with
    First two sentences of the article.

    Carlisle United's Shaun Miller is the first player to be charged by the Football Association since simulation laws were introduced in May.

    Miller, 30, is charged with "successful deception of a match official", after an alleged "clear act of simulation" against Wycombe on Tuesday.

    I think we can take it that he has been charged.

    Carlisle scored with the penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldstripy View Post
    First two sentences of the article.

    Carlisle United's Shaun Miller is the first player to be charged by the Football Association since simulation laws were introduced in May.

    Miller, 30, is charged with "successful deception of a match official", after an alleged "clear act of simulation" against Wycombe on Tuesday.

    I think we can take it that he has been charged.

    Carlisle scored with the penalty.
    I know;That wasnt my point - Sidders was saying he had been found guilty unanimously without being charged which I stated was not possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by macse15 View Post
    I know;That wasnt my point - Sidders was saying he had been found guilty unanimously without being charged which I stated was not possible
    Difficult one, as the article says:

    "Incidents which suggest a match official has been deceived by an act of simulation are referred to a panel consisting of one ex-match official, one ex-manager and one ex-player. Each panel member will be asked to review all available video footage independently of one another to determine whether they consider it was an offence of 'successful deception of a match official'. Only in circumstances where the panel are unanimous would the FA issue a charge."

    That suggests all 3 panel members did indeed see him as being guilty in order for the charge to be issued. The player now has to accept the charge or appeal against it. It's a bit difficult to see how an appeal could succeed when 3 panel members appear to have already independently and unanimously decided he dived. It will be interesting to see if an appeal is lodged by the 6pm deadline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
    Difficult one, as the article says:

    "Incidents which suggest a match official has been deceived by an act of simulation are referred to a panel consisting of one ex-match official, one ex-manager and one ex-player. Each panel member will be asked to review all available video footage independently of one another to determine whether they consider it was an offence of 'successful deception of a match official'. Only in circumstances where the panel are unanimous would the FA issue a charge."

    That suggests all 3 panel members did indeed see him as being guilty in order for the charge to be issued. The player now has to accept the charge or appeal against it. It's a bit difficult to see how an appeal could succeed when 3 panel members appear to have already independently and unanimously decided he dived. It will be interesting to see if an appeal is lodged by the 6pm deadline.
    What about doing the same to a player rolling on the ground holding his face when there as been minimal contact or none at all?
    He is cheating and trying to get an opponent sent off, the Rivaldo incident springs to mind.

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