o/t do people really believe there is a right and left in politics, today?

[ragingpup]

Globalists versus nationalists is the real divide these days.

Not in the UK though as all the major parties are globalists.

And there's no-one on the right any more.

Tories are now New Labour Mk2, Lib Dems are left and Labour are far-left.

Even UKIP has moved to the centre ground recently.

It's not the parties who are running things anyway it's the Deep State; corporations, banks, civil servants, Common Purpose, NGOs, UN, EU, you saw them all come out for Remain in the referendum campaign, that was another good thing about that referendum, they revealed themselves.

So you've completely redefined political left and right wing to suit your own agenda?!

Left and right wing is all about our priorities on economics and social policies, how we prioritise, generate and distribute money and services. It has nothing to do with globalism v nationalism. That's an entirely different debate.

Although for once I agree that the global and national corporations have too much say in our politics at home. But there's only one party that are in bed with them these days.

[great_fire]

I haven't redefined anything, the left has been abandoned, May is a Statist with her major interest being social justice, she's not a Conservative and neither is Rudd or Hammond, neither was Cmeron or Major, they're globalist neocons.

[great_fire]

I haven't redefined anything, the left has been abandoned, May is a Statist with her major interest being social justice, she's not a Conservative and neither is Rudd or Hammond, neither was Cmeron or Major, they're globalist neocons.

That should say the right has been abandoned.