How come...

[ramAnag]

...we (England) can be all conquering at U17 and U20 level and so bloomin' average at senior level?
The old...'our youngsters don't have the technique' argument seems dead in the water.

[roger_ramjet]

......when I cut the ace of hearts
You always draw the ace of spades?

[Romanis]

...we (England) can be all conquering at U17 and U20 level and so bloomin' average at senior level?
The old...'our youngsters don't have the technique' argument seems dead in the water.

I think 2 words might provide the answer:

Desire and determination

[ramAnag]

......when I cut the ace of hearts
You always draw the ace of spades?

Ah yes...good old Ronnie. Did you know, that there is a 'thoroughfare' named after him called Ronnie Lane...seriously...somewhere in London.

Think Romanis is right though...they still have a hunger that the 'big boys' have lost.

[Salopian0]

Ah yes...good old Ronnie. Did you know, that there is a 'thoroughfare' named after him called Ronnie Lane...seriously...somewhere in London.

Think Romanis is right though...they still have a hunger that the 'big boys' have lost.

Interesting point made during the match suggesting young English players should go on loan abroad to gain experience and match time as premier and championship are too competitive to accommodate them

[MadAmster]

This is the St George's Park investment starting to kick in IMO. 2 World Champions and a Euro Championship plus losing semi finalists in a Euro this year.

In 5 years we ought to be able to put out a pretty good side at senior level if their clubs allow them to progress by giving them game time in the PL.

[Acido]

Its a good queston though as to why our England First team cant do well in these WC & EC tournaments, and I dont even mean WIN any of them!. Im just talking about doing 'well' which we havent done for what seems like ages now.
The Bbc pundits were saying its boring watching the First team these days and while I agree with that, none of them dared to say a bad word about the sodding Premship. Thats the reason why the England thing doesnt matter anymore, they see the money and think all about the garbage over rated and over paid Champions league.

[DerbyDaDream]

Its a good queston though as to why our England First team cant do well in these WC & EC tournaments, and I dont even mean WIN any of them!. Im just talking about doing 'well' which we havent done for what seems like ages now.
The Bbc pundits were saying its boring watching the First team these days and while I agree with that, none of them dared to say a bad word about the sodding Premship. Thats the reason why the England thing doesnt matter anymore, they see the money and think all about the garbage over rated and over paid Champions league.

Spain has dominated European football for a long time now and pundits say that the PL is the best league in the world but i’m afraid to say it isn’t because they don’t produce enough stars to win on the biggest stages and that hurts the credibility of the PL and makes the Liga Santander as well as the rest of the european leagues make a mockery of the PL.

[Acido]

I do go along with the idea that the Premship is one of the most exciting leagues in the world, for various reasons, but that doesnt mean its the best of course. BUT, Ive no interest in watching any of the other European club leagues so I cant and wont comment on them.
My interest here is our/England's Intl fortunes and in case we didnt know... theres another Wolrld Cup just around the corner and we're there of course!. Under Gareth Southgate I cant see anything happening because he comes across as a plain YES man for the F.A.

[Salopian0]

Spain has dominated European football for a long time now and pundits say that the PL is the best league in the world but i’m afraid to say it isn’t because they don’t produce enough stars to win on the biggest stages and that hurts the credibility of the PL and makes the Liga Santander as well as the rest of the european leagues make a mockery of the PL.

Most of the Spanish side were obviously from Real and Barca .Do you. Think they have a chance of making the first team