O/T Global Sea Ice - Global Warming

[i961pie]

BEECHY SAYS:

The guy has an absolute right to deny anyone into his country (the most powerful in the World), that he feels protects his voters.....Muslims are a huge problem to World society, they murder, mutilate, stone to death, cut the clits off young girls, boil Christians alive...I say "Goodbye...**** off out of my country"....I support him

Once again, Beechy, the simple insertion of the word 'some' between 'voters' and 'Muslims' in your post would make this expression of opinion just about passable. As it stands, it is deceitful and incendiary.
Anyone with political integrity MUST oppose Trump. The evidence has been there from the start. Lying psychopaths who grab pussies shouldn't come near government.

The way things are going in our parliament with all these ***ual allegations I think we should be looking closer to home about political integrity and ***** grabbing.

[BigFatPie]

It is now 1st Nov, the unofficial start to the Global Sea Ice melting season (the date is variable due to Arctic freezing and Antarctic melting and how quickly the Southern melting becomes stronger)

Between now and mid-Feb, the Earth will lose approximately 10 million sq km of sea-ice....wow

The start figure for 31st October.....by decade is:

1980s - 27.21 million sq km

1990s - 26.92 million (minus 290,000)

2000s - 26.47 million (minus 450,000)

2010s - 25.62 million (minus 850,000)

31st October 2017 - 25.06

The first satellite data was available in 1979....so after 38 years we now have clear evidence that Oceans and World temperatures are out of control.....of course, sea ice can never totally disappear because the poles have 6 months of darkness each year so "temporary" sea ice will always form in the winter months.

The interesting thing to watch for this melting season is, will the Larsen Ice shelves continue to break up this year....brief video explanation of why this is critical

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R2hlWAsbQ0

The contrast between your rational, fact based approach to AGW and your inane jibberings on a whole range of other subjects could not be more impressive.

What do your think to some of your fellow travellers on the right’s attitude to global warming? Weird how they throw evidence out of the window and rely instead on emotion and ideology isn’t it?

[SmiffyPie]

The contrast between your rational, fact based approach to AGW and your inane jibberings on a whole range of other subjects could not be more impressive.

What do your think to some of your fellow travellers on the right’s attitude to global warming? Weird how they throw evidence out of the window and rely instead on emotion and ideology isn’t it?

WTF are you on about? Politics probably has very little influence on belief and scepticism on an individual level. I would say all parties support the concept of global warming. A ridiculous statement.

[sidders]

WTF are you on about? Politics probably has very little influence on belief and scepticism on an individual level. I would say all parties support the concept of global warming. A ridiculous statement.

Wake up, Smiffy. What a ridiculous statement. Did you know that almost half the senate and half of Congress deny man-made climate change? Have you heard of Scott Pruitt? He's the tw*t Trump has installed as head of the EPA. 'Very little influence' my royal Irish arsehole

[SmiffyPie]

Wake up, Smiffy. What a ridiculous statement. Did you know that almost half the senate and half of Congress deny man-made climate change? Have you heard of Scott Pruitt? He's the tw*t Trump has installed as head of the EPA. 'Very little influence' my royal Irish arsehole

Who is talking about the US? If BFP was then I retract my statement (possibly). I automatically assumed he was on about the UK political scene and the right in general.

[Old_pie]

The contrast between your rational, fact based approach to AGW and your inane jibberings on a whole range of other subjects could not be more impressive.

What do your think to some of your fellow travellers on the right’s attitude to global warming? Weird how they throw evidence out of the window and rely instead on emotion and ideology isn’t it?

Just trying to catch up with this thread and TLAs are suddenly appearing. Is AGW the AGW as in

http://www.freecriticalthinking.org/...warming-theory ??

[tarquinbeech]

The contrast between your rational, fact based approach to AGW and your inane jibberings on a whole range of other subjects could not be more impressive.

What do your think to some of your fellow travellers on the right’s attitude to global warming? Weird how they throw evidence out of the window and rely instead on emotion and ideology isn’t it?

Chubby - my position could not be clearer.....I support the Right, but my thoughts on Global Warming are clear (I assume that I am able to have contrasting Party opinions?)

Here is one of my earlier posts on this same thread.....please check back:

Andy - you surely must be joking?

Because I didn't criticise him over Immigration or Muslims....then somehow I must be condoning his position on Climate Change?

Is that honestly, in front of this Forum.....what you think?

The guy has an absolute right to deny anyone into his country (the most powerful in the World), that he feels protects his voters.....Muslims are a huge problem to World society, they murder, mutilate, stone to death, cut the clits off young girls, boil Christians alive...I say "Goodbye...**** off out of my country"....I support him

If he doesn't want any more immigrants....fair play....the electorate decide....or not

So apparently, because he has a mandate FROM HIS PEOPLE....I inadvertently applaud his decision on Climate Change Denial?

Do me a favour....I have NEVER EVER supported his position on Climate Change....it is real, it is happening.

[sidders]

That sounds eminently reasonable, Beechy, until you consider the reasons for denial by Trump's allies. They wish to continue screwing the planet for profit today and up yours tomorrow. Generally speaking, the left works towards a plan which backs up their philosophy. The right's modus operandi is one with their philosophy: if it makes money, do it.

[tarquinbeech]

That sounds eminently reasonable, Beechy, until you consider the reasons for denial by Trump's allies. They wish to continue screwing the planet for profit today and up yours tomorrow. Generally speaking, the left works towards a plan which backs up their philosophy. The right's modus operandi is one with their philosophy: if it makes money, do it.

So while Maggie was busy closing all the UK coal mines....Labour's opposition, marches and organised riots were based solely on saving jobs....yes Sid, I get it....each party has an agenda based on what is most suitable for their supporters.......Labour couldn't give a flying fig about Climate Change then....Trump doesn't now.

Except, Trump is all smoke and mirrors, he knows he cannot save US Coal, or oil for that matter.....he pretends to support jobs in dying industries but secretly he knows the writing is on the wall.....every single car manufacturer is switching to Electric, Solar-powered and wind-powered electric is now free for many US households after 8pm at night, Tesla are upping production of their PowerWalls whilst unveiling plans for Solar roof tiles available for all new houses.....the age of free power and free travel is just around the corner.

The PetroDollar is finished, Saudi Fundamentalism will be ended, no more illegal oil-wars in Iraq and Libya......interesting times are ahead

Trump rejects call to save Coal

http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/22/inve...ex.html?iid=EL

[tarquinbeech]

So while Maggie was busy closing all the UK coal mines....Labour's opposition, marches and organised riots were based solely on saving jobs....yes Sid, I get it....each party has an agenda based on what is most suitable for their supporters.......Labour couldn't give a flying fig about Climate Change then....Trump doesn't now.

Except, Trump is all smoke and mirrors, he knows he cannot save US Coal, or oil for that matter.....he pretends to support jobs in dying industries but secretly he knows the writing is on the wall.....every single car manufacturer is switching to Electric, Solar-powered and wind-powered electric is now free for many US households after 8pm at night, Tesla are upping production of their PowerWalls whilst unveiling plans for Solar roof tiles available for all new houses.....the age of free power and free travel is just around the corner.

The PetroDollar is finished, Saudi Fundamentalism will be ended, no more illegal oil-wars in Iraq and Libya......interesting times are ahead

Trump rejects call to save Coal

http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/22/inve...ex.html?iid=EL

First coal bankruptcy of Trump era

http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/01/inve...ong/index.html