A right Royal tax wheeze...

[sinkov]

we would all dodge taxes given a chance..

Don't know if I'd call it tax dodging Alfie, but as individuals in a free and democratic country we all have the right to ensure we pay as little tax as is legally allowable. In fact it's not just a right, it's a duty, the profligate scum running this country, whichever party they belong to, will have to squeeze every penny they can out of me, it won't be coughed up willingly.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Don't know if I'd call it tax dodging Alfie, but as individuals in a free and democratic country we all have the right to ensure we pay as little tax as is legally allowable. In fact it's not just a right, it's a duty, the profligate scum running this country, whichever party they belong to, will have to squeeze every penny they can out of me, it won't be coughed up willingly.

...another tax dodger for you sinkov...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politic...e-tax-11484478

[Balanbam00]

''To be rich its not what you have in the Bank its what you have in your heart.''

''But if you do not have anything in your heart,its most probably in the Bank! ''

[Altobelli]

...another tax dodger for you sinkov...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politic...e-tax-11484478

This thread could run on for years with all the rich folk that commit tax evasion, I cannot understand how people can say its not evasion when these rich folk go to all the trouble with in the know small print geeks to avoid paying tax while normal folk have to graft without riches or the knowledge to avoid it, different rules for different people which will never change.

Just a quick one on Prince Charles, he was asked a few years ago about having wind turbines on his Duchy estate, he said his estates should remain as they are so they could stay as they have always been so that people could enjoy them, until he was told he could make thousands of £'s then he quickly changed his mind and had them installed.

Nice quote Balanbam

[sinkov]

...another tax dodger for you sinkov...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politic...e-tax-11484478

You couldn't make it up BT, Bonny Prince Charlie and his links to the Climate Change/Renewables scam, whatever next. And lower down in that Mirror piece, right on cue, the lefty, tax dodging, millionairess Dame Patricia Hodge, who I've already mentioned in another post, whinging about Lewis Hamilton.

I keep saying it and every day that passes proves me more right, we live in a lunatic asylum, and the inmates really are running this one.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

You couldn't make it up BT, Bonny Prince Charlie and his links to the Climate Change/Renewables scam, whatever next. And lower down in that Mirror piece, right on cue, the lefty, tax dodging, millionairess Dame Patricia Hodge, who I've already mentioned in another post, whinging about Lewis Hamilton.

I keep saying it and every day that passes proves me more right, we live in a lunatic asylum, and the inmates really are running this one.

Sadly sinkov I must agree with you. It brings bile up in my throat but I must say you are right on this one.

Advice for Theresa May, watch your back...

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[Altobelli]

Mike Garlick gets a mention in the link below.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/201...aradise-papers

[sinkov]

Poor old Mike, what is he supposed to have done wrong ? The Guardian is very thorough in it's investigations, but it doesn't mention how it managed to avoid paying Corporation Tax on the £300 million profit it made when it sold Auto Trader. Must have been a different tax dodging scam that one.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Not sure why a jet setting person who lives in between visits to homes in Monaco, Switzerland and Colorado and is not domiciled in the UK can be regarded as a tax dodger?

If I had £130 million in the bank, I wouldn't live here either!

Simple solution. Tax the dosh at source!

[sinkov]

I wish I had the eloquence to put my point of view like Paul T Horgan does, but I haven't, so I'll let him do it for me.

Paul T Horgan: This socialist song and dance over ‘fair’ taxation

Language, as George Orwell highlighted in his works, is political, and never more so than with taxation.
When Chancellors cut taxes, their opponents accuse them of giving money away, or enriching those whose taxes are cut. This is not true. The state is taking less money in tax. People are allowed to keep more of their money. Socialists seem to believe that all money is the property of the state and that if some people have large quantities of money, it is the 'duty' of the state to confiscate this and redistribute it to those who have less in the name of 'equality'. The fact that someone has worked hard for the money, or arranged their affairs so as to possess a large amount of money is, to the collectivists, irrelevant. No one is allowed to be richer than anyone else. Of course under socialism some people, regime loyalists, always have greater entitlement to goods and services than others, or they might know the right people. This socialism is unfair, just unfair in a manner unrelated to actual achievement or participation in the economy.
There is also the issue of tax avoidance. There is actually no such thing. Tax avoidance is a term confected by statists that has entered general use. People and legal entities either pay the taxes they owe to the state or they do not. There is either compliance or evasion. A subset of compliance is 'gaming the system', devising financial schemes with the sole function of minimising tax liability. Until recently, these were legal.
People had a right to minimise their tax liability. However this changed following the 2008 crash, when the subsequent coalition government found itself short of money and the traditional sources of revenue had dried up. The incorrectly titled General Anti-Avoidance Rule was instituted to stop the cat-and-mouse game in which rules designed to incentivise sections of the economy were exploited as loopholes.


There is a bit of a song and dance going on about some revelations concerning tax-minimising schemes. There are complaints that some people have not paid their 'fair share' in taxes. This is another fiction. There is no such thing as a 'fair share' of taxes. People and entities pay what they owe, fair or not. If they do not pay, they are evading tax, which is illegal.
There is also no social duty element in the payment of taxes. Taxes are an obligation. If people believe that there is a moral imperative to the payment of taxes, as these are used to fund social services, it is unusual that this imperative stops at the last penny of tax due to the state. I have yet to see a well-heeled welfarist paying more money to the Exchequer than they owe. The tax bill is actually the minimum amount that the state requires from an individual or entity.
There are people who leave money in their will to help alleviate the national debt. None of them is a socialist. If socialists believe so much in the benevolent power of the state, it seems strange they do not wish to augment that power through donation. It is more likely that socialists believe in the malevolent power of the state to punish achievers and appropriate wealth to be handed off to their supporters or to bribe an electorate.
Socialists also seem to believe that no money should be allowed to pass in inheritance from one generation to another. I have yet to see a socialist give away all their money rather than pass it on to their children, after taxes. Tony Benn and Ralph Miliband both used schemes to maximise how much their offspring could inherit.
The political posturing by socialists is bogus and is aimed at the hard-of-thinking. If it is found that individuals or entities have evaded tax or gamed the tax system, they will have to pay up. Otherwise, their arrangements are completely legal. There is no moral dimension. Tax is not moral. So far, there has been no indication that there has been any wrongdoing. All that appears to have happened is that some rich people have been arranging their financial affairs in a lawful fashion. Given that socialists hate all rich people, they are merely attacking those identifying as well-off for having that identity. This is just envy and bigotry dressed up as bogus virtue. Socialists are being socialists.
If people want to be rich, they need to work for their money and be rewarded for their achievements. Being enriched on the back of money confiscated by social bigots is just fool's gold. Sooner or later the socialists will run out of someone else's money. Just ask any starving Venezuela.