O/F'ing/T Carillion

[KerrAvon]

Once again you're being very, very disingenuous, something you're very good at.

Yes, the miner's opposed the will of the gov't, and you know what, regardless of what you think, i'd do the exact same thing again right now in the same circumstances, and i don't think i'd be on my own either. No one ignored the rights of anyone, ballots were held in Yorkshire, and nationally among the NUM delegates, maybe a national members ballot should've been held, but i know this, you don't cross the line, ever, history actually proves every word that came out of Arthur Scargill's mouth back then was the truth, indeed, he rather under played the damage the tories actually had in mind.
Rather than concentrating on the uneconomic pits (though you wouldn't know that coal mines could be economic one year and uneconomic the next, due to geological issues) the tories absolutely decimated the coal industry regardless of the profits they made. My own pit, Silverwood, broke all records, made profit year on year, and was shut in 1994, and there's countless others just the same.

That democratically elected gov't you talk about deliberately created the conditions to take the NUM on, they threw the gauntlet down, and we picked it up, put one hell of a fight up, even if i say so myself, despite the huge odds and the whole state machine against us.

To say that animal's position is that the employees can get stuffed is quite frankly ridiculous and you know it, once again using your profession of cleverly manipulating words to try and favour your argument.

I’m not being disingenuous, I’m expressing views that you don’t like, which is different. When union members have to take their own union to court to make it act in accordance with its constitution and to stop misapplying its funds, there is something badly wrong. Surely you can agree with that?

animal immediately dismissed any sort of government support for Carrillion, despite having struck to retain such support for the coal mining industry. If that isn’t a ‘get stuffed’ to Carillion employees and more than a tad hypocritical, I don’t know what is.

For what it’s worth, I think animal called it correctly on Carillion (any substantial support would probably have been illegal under EU law, in any event), but feel that the romanticised version of the miners strike that he and you advance bears little resemblance to reality.