Leeds - Friends in High Places ...... No 'cos We Got the Rad !

[WTF11]

Points being .....
Human rights abuse.
Source of money.
Investment of source of money.
Super Agent controlling staff employed by club.
If No money down the line = no club for community to support.

So no interest to you as your a Leeds fan.

Overall the Rad is 'a clean transparent' football club owner with limited resources compared to other 'owners' I mention above.
You preach success at all costs and expect the Leeds regime to compete with the above philosophy of spending without a clue where money/finance originates from and at what human cost.
You continually criticise our owners approach with no understanding or knowledge of what the Rad has immediately available or indeed what financial remit Orta is under.
You have not implemented an alternate plan for Leeds to initiate.

I have currently looked at ALL PL clubs accounts,all Championship accounts,all FL1 accounts,all FL2 accounts,all French Ligue 1 accounts,all Italian Serie 1 accounts which I've been asked to translate for various parties.

IMO - Leeds as a club are doing okay,a view undertaken with the facts at my disposal financially and Leeds as a club are transparent in all their dealings too.Leeds are a club in transition and within a budget too.
As for human rights issues I'm now off to Bosnia and Serbia,countries of recent times suffering heavy human rights issues and of which fans of clubs in those countries have factual stories to tell of how their clubs were financed prior and now - facts I'll use for balance for my required translated report.

My thread was posted for interest and for the interests of football WTF11 .........take it as you wish.
MOT

"Human rights abuse", levelled at the nation from which the Wolves owner hails, yes? My reply referred to the likes of City, and Chelski, whos owners hail from similarly repressive regimes, religiously fundamentalist, one-party states (or all combined!), and there are many others in the PL and Championship (and elsewhere I suspect), but who aren't singled out for criticism. Again, I just wonder what point was being made, and why solely about Wolves? The source of an owners funds are as varied and as open to criticism as there are clubs in the leagues, as we all know.

The investment of whatever funds are available is a legitimate subject for discussion, but there are plenty of responses on here that suggest we (the fans) just shut up and wait and see, so that's what I'll do, until and unless I see something transpire that show we are more determined to get quality in the 1st team squad, something sadly lacking at present and which has not been helped by much of the "recruitment" (sounds like the kind of thing McDonalds would do), under Ortas leadership.

As to the control of those who arrives and leaves, at least the interests of the agent are more explicitly focussed on individual player performance, as their livelihood depends upon said players at least being marketable, and hopefully of increased market value, something or DoF wouldn't be able to take to the bank, given current performance. And its hardly credible to suggest that Christiansen has any say whatsoever in who we acquire (despite his performance with his dossier!).

Radrizzani may be a transparent owner with limited funds, but if he felt like "flipping" us, he would, no different to any other business man, no matter how dodgy or otherwise their background might be. And I don't "preach success at all costs" far from it. I just wish there was some reality to what owners say. A top 6 finish in this league REQUIRES SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT if that nirvana is to be achieved this season as Radrizzani is on public record as having stated. Competing with what happens at Wolves and clubs like them, on and off the pitch, is required, and if that can't be done, say so (for whatever reason, be it lack of funds, a social conscience (as you imply we should be espousing to, however naive that might appear in terms of the footballing business) etc etc).

If neither Radrizzani nor the other board members believed that top-6 finish to be possible within this season, SAY SO. At least then supporters have a realistic picture of the road to the PL, which might involve a building period and one where "diamonds in the rough" could be found. As it is, we see next to no investment in areas we all know to be crying our for strengthening, players acquired and immediately loaned out, (to the benefit of who?), and performances that lay bare the frailties of the current 1st team squad.

You and others may think Leeds are "doing okay". "Okay" smacks of mid-table mediocrity, which we have had quite enough of thankyou very much. since taking over 100% ownership, Radrizzani has done what any sensible businessman would do, reduce costs (e.g. rental vs servicing the costs of money to purchase the ground), and acquire assets, but in order for there to be a step-change in the fortunes of the club, greater ambition (and levels of investment) have to be evidenced. The net benefit to a club like Wolves of promotion to the PL is in the order of £190m, and for a club like Leeds, I suspect considerably more. Yet here we are hoovering up rejects from the world over for what....£500k, £1m? (and then loaning them out!), with many posters commenting that we would "never pay that much", when figures of £3-4m get mentioned. Not suggesting an alternate plan, and I suspect neither owner, Head of Recruitment nor coach would take much notice (after all, they aren't taking notice of what is happening right in front of their eyes!) even if I did. Just prefer to see/hear some honesty and truth from them, so we can deal with it.

As for why you started the thread, I'm still puzzled. It seems more a puff piece for Leeds United generally and Radrizzani/Orta particularly, when there are growing concerns being expressed (in other threads on here and in other social media outlets), that neither is doing what they should.

[spaldy]

I tend to subcribe to the "karma is a b*tch" theory.

I think we were soundly punished and thrashed because we were a pioneer in the big money football scheme. We look like pikers compared to the current big money clubs. we got our comeuppance and I suspect that some of the other clubs will as well.

Hitching your cart to a chinese money source is dicey at best and ruinous at worst. Look at the debt that country has accumulated and we all know how effective government is at running economies and allocating resources. Socialism destroys all economies over time. Not a matter of if but when.

obviously, wolves will go up this year. what happens next will be kind of interesting. Thanks for posting Mrs. O.