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    Quote Originally Posted by great_fire View Post
    I would say I'm a real conservative, not a neo-liberal like Cameron, May, Hammond, Rudd.
    UNlike Roly I don't think this is a honest answer to Roly's question. He asked why you wouldn't be a member of the far right parties, EDL, BF, NA and such? Like Roly, I am very interested in this as your views frequently expressed on here align pretty much exactly with these groups. So what stops you formally joining these groups, instead choosing to 'compromise' somewhat by ultimately supporting a party that are, and always will be globalists, even if the Euro research group have their way.

    I've asked you this several times already and it's good to see you at least try to address it with Roly, albeit with a politician's swerve!

    So what stops you from joining these groups? Which of their policies do you disagree with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragingpup View Post
    UNlike Roly I don't think this is a honest answer to Roly's question. He asked why you wouldn't be a member of the far right parties, EDL, BF, NA and such? Like Roly, I am very interested in this as your views frequently expressed on here align pretty much exactly with these groups. So what stops you formally joining these groups, instead choosing to 'compromise' somewhat by ultimately supporting a party that are, and always will be globalists, even if the Euro research group have their way.

    I've asked you this several times already and it's good to see you at least try to address it with Roly, albeit with a politician's swerve!

    So what stops you from joining these groups? Which of their policies do you disagree with?
    The EDL isn't a party, you can't become a member, it was an anti-Islamic extremism movement launched after returning British soldiers were abused by extremists in Luton.

    Of course I prefer nationalism over globalism.

    You really think Soros has noble motives in spending billions campaigning against the removal of borders and the destruction of nations?

    The globalists want to destroy national identities and turn the world into one big planet full of coffee-coloured consumers with no identity other than as consumers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by great_fire View Post
    The EDL isn't a party, you can't become a member, it was an anti-Islamic extremism movement launched after returning British soldiers were abused by extremists in Luton.

    Of course I prefer nationalism over globalism.

    You really think Soros has noble motives in spending billions campaigning against the removal of borders and the destruction of nations?

    The globalists want to destroy national identities and turn the world into one big planet full of coffee-coloured consumers with no identity other than as consumers.
    You're turning me into Paxman. Ok - I'll try again.

    You CAN join Britain First and you can it appears join divisions of the English Defence League. And you can most certainly contribute to and support, join message boards, facebook groups of all of these parties.

    So why do you not do so when you appear to espouse the same views as these groups? Why do you not join the groups that you CAN join, and why don't you support these organisations to grow and spread your/their political message?

    If you don't, I ask again, why not? What is the difference between the views of these organisations and your own?

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    I'll answer for him pup, he knows his views are basically reprehensible at best, but cannot be honest with himself about it, him stating he is a member of any of these organisations is him admitting to himself what he really is, what he stands for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragingpup View Post
    You're turning me into Paxman. Ok - I'll try again.

    You CAN join Britain First and you can it appears join divisions of the English Defence League. And you can most certainly contribute to and support, join message boards, facebook groups of all of these parties.

    So why do you not do so when you appear to espouse the same views as these groups? Why do you not join the groups that you CAN join, and why don't you support these organisations to grow and spread your/their political message?

    If you don't, I ask again, why not? What is the difference between the views of these organisations and your own?
    They've got nothing to do with me why do you keep going on about them? Seems like you are the one who knows all about them not me.

    Do you support Soros spending £18 billion to destroy nation states and democracies and encourage mass migration?

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    Quote Originally Posted by great_fire View Post
    They've got nothing to do with me why do you keep going on about them? Seems like you are the one who knows all about them not me.

    Do you support Soros spending £18 billion to destroy nation states and democracies and encourage mass migration?

    So when you say "they've got nothing to do with me" are you disassociating yourself from them and their views? If so, on what grounds? What do you disagree with them on?

    I keep going on about them because I like people to be honest and transparent about their political views and I struggle to see how a man can espouse such strong views on Islam, nationalism and mass immigration without being drawn to these parties, the very things issues that these organisations exist to oppose. I'm also very interested in why people that have no problem in expressing these views seem to be ashamed of admitting support for these organisations.

    So, I hear that you say that you are not supporting them but I can't believe you haven't seriously considered supporting them and therefore ask again - what has stopped you? Where do you and they differ?

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