Government threatens Oxfam

[1959_60]

Given the fact that we have a Tory Government who are committed to spending 0.7% of our GDP on foreign aid, I would suggest that the majority of Tory MP's agree with it.

I would expect the back benchers who don't agree with it will become more vocal.

And I agree with it in principle. Although it is patently obvious that there should be much more scrutiny of who gets the money.

[oldcolner]

Given the fact that we have a Tory Government who are committed to spending 0.7% of our GDP on foreign aid, I would suggest that the majority of Tory MP's agree with it.

I would expect the back benchers who don't agree with it will become more vocal.

And I agree with it in principle. Although it is patently obvious that there should be much more scrutiny of who gets the money.

Agree and would add more scrutiny of where the money actually goes.

[army88]

I’m with you Sinkov and mr Mogg , let’s get our own house in order before we fund any charity,
Read the other day about ceo and upper management of all the charities Uk and there wasn’t one less than a six figure salary.

[sinkov]

Given the fact that we have a Tory Government who are committed to spending 0.7% of our GDP on foreign aid, I would suggest that the majority of Tory MP's agree with it.

I would expect the back benchers who don't agree with it will become more vocal.

And I agree with it in principle. Although it is patently obvious that there should be much more scrutiny of who gets the money.

Of course the majority of Tory MPs agree with it, the Tory party as we once 'knew and loved it' is long since dead, this lot are not much different to New Labour or the LibDems, a bunch of virtue-signalling, bedwetters.

That a relatively well off country like the UK should have a Foreign Aid budget is a given, of course we should, and I don't think any MP or even any reasonable member of the public would disagree. The point of contention is whether we should be legally obliged to spend 0.7% of GDP annually when the NHS is struggling and desperate for additional funding, Social Care is in meltdown and desperate for additional funding, and Councils are strapped for cash and closing Libraries, Public Toilets, Swimming Pools and have virtually given up on maintaining their local road surfaces. (You want to try driving through Waddington, unless you have a LandRover I wouldn't advise it, but I digress.)

That Foreign Aid is often not well or wisely spent is blindingly obvious, I see no logical reason why the Department should not have to get in the queue for it's budget and justify it like just the NHS and Social care has to. No one is suggesting Foreign Aid is stopped, simply that the current system is nothing more than virtue signalling by our preening politicians, and in our current financial situation cannot be justified.

[1959_60]

Again, we are pretty much in agreement here Sinkov.

Every penny we spend on everything should be placed under scrutiny. And foreign aid is not different.

Carillion is a recent example of chucking our money away and there are many more.

We both agree that foreign aid is worthwhile and I am not too precious of the exact figure - as long as it is used efficiently.

It could be argued that committing a % of our GDP takes it out of the political argument instead of being used as a political football, but I agree that the net figure should be under regular review - just like all Government spending.

[sinkov]

Well the NHS, Social Care and the Benefit System are political footballs, I see no reason why Foreign Aid shouldn't get a bit of a kicking as well.

The whole concept of legally obliging a department to spending 0.7% of GDP on Foreign Aid is so obviously flawed, and such a guarantee of fraud, corruption and waste on a massive scale, that I doubt the sanity of anyone who agrees with it, but as I'm convinced the UK is now a gigantic lunatic asylum anyway, perhaps I shouldn't be surprised.

It reminds me a bit of when I worked at Nelson Fire Station, a part time cook was employed to make meals, but the numbers actually eating the meals had dropped to about half a dozen. So we were amazed one day when we took delivery of an industrial sized potato peeler. When the Station Commander came in we all asked him why the feck he'd authorised buying that, as it took her less than five minutes to peel the spuds by hand. He said he had an annual station budget, the money allocated to the budget reduced annually by 10%, based not on the previous year's budget, but on the money spent, therefore it made sense to spend as much as he could, right up to the limit of his budget, to protect his budget as far as possible the following year. Hence a lot of money spent on an expensive ornament for the kitchen, which never got used. The Public Sector eh. Maybe this sort of nonsense is why the NHS is always strapped for cash ?

[sinkov]

Penny Mordaunt has told Oxfam the £32m they receive from the government is at risk, unless they show 'moral leadership' over the *** scandals engulfing them. Well, moral leadership from the fat cats running a corrupt charity scam like Oxfam is about as likely as Tony Mowbray leading Blackburn Rovers to the PL title, it just isn't going to happen.

But nevertheless I'll make a prediction, Oxfam won't lose a penny of their funding, taxpayers money will continue to flow their way no matter what. And I don't need to explain why do I. Norder will know anyway.

Has Oxfam lost it's government funding yet ? No, thought not.

[alfinyalcabo]

I've noticed a lack of BT on these type of threads ..Looks like he's finally seen the light and given up to them..

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I've noticed a lack of BT on these type of threads ..Looks like he's finally seen the light and given up to them..

Actually Alf, it's like flogging a dead horse on here and I can have proper conversations with like-minded folk on political forums.

I've decided I am only talking about football related matters on here now.

One final thought on Oxfam. The perpetrators of abuse and rape should be prosecuted and if convicted imprisoned preferably in a Sierra Leone hell hole.

It is acknowledged and accepted that the Oxfam moral compass is broken beyond repair. I do not believe that our Government should cut foreign aid but Oxfam should by now have already been shut down and all of their assets and funding allocation transferred immediately to the British Red Cross.

Oxfam employees and representatives indulging in criminal activities and preying on devastated and ravaged overseas citizens is not what millions of Oxfam donors believe they are funding. Shut it down now. Close down their Charitable status and remove their charitable organisation number. End of.

Whatever happened to the Christian "civilizing" message?

[sinkov]

Has Oxfam lost it's government funding yet ? No, thought not.

Have they lost any funding yet ?