O/T Unilever

[great_fire]

Like I said before, when it was calculated before that immigrants were a (very small) net benefit to the economy, no account was taken of their use of public services, when it is then that is no longer the case.

Besides not everything is about money. That may be the motivation for the corporations who want open borders but there are more important things to the public like preserving our cultures, keeping women and children safe, preventing terrorism, not feeling like strangers in our own neighbourhoods.

[ragingpup]

Like I said before, when it was calculated before that immigrants were a (very small) net benefit to the economy, no account was taken of their use of public services, when it is then that is no longer the case.

Besides not everything is about money. That may be the motivation for the corporations who want open borders but there are more important things to the public like preserving our cultures, keeping women and children safe, preventing terrorism, not feeling like strangers in our own neighbourhoods.

Lots of detail in the below Fact Check article:

https://fullfact.org/immigration/how...blic-finances/

In short, it depends how you approach the figures in looking at whether immigration causes +/- net profit/loss. But the general conclusion is that either way the net profit/loss is tiny, around 1% GDP. Lots of variables - age, length of time in U.K. Etc so will vary from immigrant group to immigrant group.

So, unless you you are planning on focusing on one particular immigrant group, age group and forcibly deporting them to make a small improvement on the economic picture, then you don't really have anything to discuss here do you?

Or are you talking about forced deportation of immigrant groups which you think of as undesirable? For some reason, you never seem to answer this question, that of what you would like to do about the problems you highlight.

I think the cultural reasons for discussing the careful management of immigration are perfectly valid. I agree that many of the problems we face now, especially in Northern towns are the result of disastrous management of immigration from successive governments since the 1950s. Recent increases have inflamed this all the more and make it even more important that we have a sensible and sensitive discussion with actions on properly managing immigration for the benefit of our communities. Your constant misinformation and bigoted comments can only make things worse, unless of course you are agitating very genuinely for a brutal solution of forced removal of targeted communities and see this as the only solution?