Exactly Stoke , been saying for ages 4-2-3-1 doesn't work for us , was hoping Laszlo would change that but he is as bad as previous manger for it , has to be 4-4-2 or even 3-5-2 need to get back to basics and start hard to beat , another concern is the crowd tonight I think it will be way below normal , lots o guys no going back while the Snake and Martin are there , Livi game sale of Gussie the last straw for many