O/T Its surprising how people vote

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Forgive me Animal, I wasn't a miner and have never worked in a unionised workforce so I'm not sure how not voting to hold a national ballot on strike action after actually going on strike works ?

I wasn't at the Battle of Orgreave but growing up in Barnsley understand the depth of feeling reference the strike, I also understand that two wrongs don't make a right in respect of the violence dished out by both sides.
The Labour Party are being purged of anyone who dares to speak out against the extreme left wing views of it's leadership, as an ex labour supporter I'm beyond disappointed at the way the party is being led and run. I'm a patriot with close family ties to the British Army, I can't stomach the fact that the current labour leadership happily supported IRA terrorists and still does. Corbyns performance at the Cenotaph in his first year in office was a disgrace.
Don't forget that it's the sons and daughters of 'the many' they purport to represent who join up, and are then murdered by the terrorists they march in the memory of. And you support them ???

Far from patting you on the head like a kid brother I enjoy your posts enormously - particularly your debates with Kerr. The humour, banter and knowledgeable debate on here is what brought me back to the board to share my own thoughts and opinions. Just because I don't agree with some of your views doesn't mean that I don't respect the man that makes them.

As far as your final question goes on the Labour Party I can't abide what it's become, there was so much potential there but instead it's descended into a party of spiteful class envy and happy clappers. Socialism doesn't work Animal, it's altered the country I love irreversibly, and not for the better.

To be perfectly honest I hate discussing the strike and I have done for many years , I'm not that fussed about all this Orgreave Justice campaign , if they want to go for it then go for it , I'll even chuck some money in fund raising buckets but that's as far as I go with it , I've better things to do than squeal foul play because we got a good kicking in a field in Rotherham nearly 34 years ago , ffs nobody died , I understand it isn't a popular view and will attract criticism , fair enough , I get it but I don't want a forced apology of no fecker , fuq em , I'm a proud man .

No I'd sooner concentrate on the issues of today thank you very much .

Now you say socialism as altered this country and not for the better , we haven't had a labour government running on a socialist platform since 1948 when they created the welfare state and the NHS .

If you are talking about trade unions then the question you have to ask yourself is why did they ever need to come in to existence ?

Yes we've had some hot heads I won't deny that but if you think this country will ever return to the days when people downed tools for 2 months because the bacon in the canteen was overcooked you couldn't be more wrong .

The workplace is far different to 40 odd years ago and more importantly people are different , people today couldn't manage with the internet turned off for 12 hours never mind going on strike for 12 months , never ever going to happen .

All I'm seeking today is to see young people have opportunities to obtain higher education without thousands of pounds worth of debt .

A social housing programme that enables people unable to purchase a home and obtain reasonable standard of housing at a price they can afford .

An end to ZHC so that people are guaranteed an income without insecurity , insecurity harms the economy because nobody dare make financial commitments when they can't rely on a regular income .

The NHS will never be perfect but we can do better , much better , people need to realise that it needs funding and yes your taxes will rise as a result , if people want a living wage as opposed to a minimum one then they can chuck a few pounds in as well , it never was free when it was created so don't expect it now , go price up private healthcare and then get back to me .

I'll throw in tax avoidance too , a subject that needs a thread in it's own right , big companies take the pyss and they get away with it , they may scare the shyte out of other governments but not Corbyn , bring em into line , free loaders some of em .

I'll leave you with this , Thatcher and Corbyn are from the same stock , both divisive characters , both fully committed to their beliefs , both committed to changing the country .

You either loved both of em or you hated em with a passion .

I was on the wrong side of Thatcher so I get it with Corbyn , water off a ducks back with Thatcher and Corbyn's the same , say what you want , write what you want but you ain't going to stop him .

He'll win the next election with a majority , you mark my words and half the country will hate him just like they hated Thatcher but you know what , it doesn't matter .

Someone needs to fight for the silent majority , he'll do for me .