We have had a run of managers who have an element of stubbornness about them - regardless of the importance of the match, some mangers seem reluctant to accept they made the wrong team selection and don't change the formation until it's too late.

United could have been 0-3 down at half time . If it's so obvious the team is not gelling why wait until half time to make the changes ( players can get injured and booked etc, but thats a risk worth taking when the team are playing so bad ).

It's worrying just how bad they players have been - how many wake up calls do they need ?

No team is ever going to win a league or the play offs being so inconsistent and failing to grind out results when it really matters.